Ecotricity................

BrianV

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
The maths ain't exactly clear here.

Ecotricity claim to supply 100% renewable energy....

Now, unless they're supplying 105% energy, with them buying 5% gas from Russia, then that claim can't be true, can it??

In fact, this web page of theirs, claims they use 0% Natural gas in their mix.



Smoke and mirrors...
Might be struggling with renewables this week with so little wind?
 

john 650

Member
Livestock Farmer
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: .
Get a couple more electric cars, you could get that up to 90% (y).
WALOB.
I'm not sure how a third and fourth EV is going to help....

But with two EVs, and a battery, drawing 7kw each, for the duration of the low rate, that's 21kw/hr. At 31p/kw premium, that's £6.51/hr to Vince, if he was my supplier, for which I'd get a nice warm feeling, that I was doing my bit.

No where near as warm a feeling as Vince, and seemingly Sibneft/Gazprom would get mind....
 

delilah

Member
I'm not sure how a third and fourth EV is going to help....

It would get that % figure up, which makes the point that its a meaningless figure.
I'm curious, did your mate email you back? Difficult to believe this was a month ago...

tbh I haven't done it, I will, thanks for the prod.

edit: sent.


Yo Dale
I would appear to be in a minority of one here:

https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/ecotricity.363680/

Can you give me any figures to back up my assertion: Pro rata, I would wager Ecotricity pumps more money into UK ag than any other energy provider.
Thanks in anticipation, keep up the good work, and don’t blow promotion !
Yours etc.
 
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john 650

Member
Livestock Farmer
It would get that % figure up, which makes the point that its a meaningless figure.


tbh I haven't done it, I will, thanks for the prod.

edit: sent.


Yo Dale
I would appear to be in a minority of one here:

https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/ecotricity.363680/

Can you give me any figures to back up my assertion: Pro rata, I would wager Ecotricity pumps more money into UK ag than any other energy provider.
Thanks in anticipation, keep up the good work, and don’t blow promotion !
Yours etc.
Yo delilah

WALOB

Keep believin'

Dale
 

DartmoorEwe

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Yelverton, UK
Thank you all for running this thread. ... and for keeping it relatively respectful - I switch off when the banter gets too severe but OMG a thick skin is needed. We're with ecotricity and have been wondering whether it is right to stay with them. The reality is no one is perfect, I'm addicted to the energy supplied by the grid and its important not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. No one seems to have mentioned Good Energy as a supplier - any comments?
 
Well I’ve been with good energy for some years. Ecorricity have a 25% stake in good energy and Dale Vince has been at pains to point out to shareholders of good energy that they have in fact sold all their interest in electricity generation. Not something any of us knew anything about. Having said that… my per unit day cost is about 14p cheaper than ecotricity. Though I’m still thinking about moving over to them.
 

Frankzy

Member
Location
Jamtland, Sweden
Gods! Scrolling through real quick it's apparent that there are a lot of people here who doesn't understand how the electric grid works so here's a highly simplified short example. (I've only skimmed the thread so I apologise if this has already been explained.)

Let's say I invent a magical cold fusion reactor and then build a test plant putting out 100kw to the grid. I can now go to someone connected to the grid and sell them up to 100kw of power and market it as 100% carbon-free fusion power!!
In reality my customer receives a little bit of power from all the various power generators on the grid so that includes a bit of nuclear, a bit of gas, etc etc.


In other words you are really paying someone to put a certain type of power into the grid, not to deliver only to you.
What this power company is doing is promising to not buy any power from a power plant using animal products to produce said power, they are not promising that you won't get any other's electrons...
Nope, there are plenty companies out there that will sell you electrons that are apportioned to wind and solar without giving any money to that shower of charlatans. Pick the right one and you can save money on it too.

And if they market their power as being from wind and solar without buying power from them they are committing a crime...
 
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Bald Rick

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
As an aside, Dale Vince paid the students to invade Premiership football games recently wearing “Stop Oil” T shirts
only the one at the Everton game got on the pitch and cable tied himself to a goalpost … failed at Arsenal and Wolves

No agenda there then

 

delilah

Member
As an aside, Dale Vince paid the students to invade Premiership football games recently wearing “Stop Oil” T shirts
only the one at the Everton game got on the pitch and cable tied himself to a goalpost … failed at Arsenal and Wolves

No agenda there then


Remind us, the owners of Everton.....
 
Gods! Scrolling through real quick it's apparent that there are a lot of people here who doesn't understand how the electric grid works so here's a highly simplified short example. (I've only skimmed the thread so I apologise if this has already been explained.)

Let's say I invent a magical cold fusion reactor and then build a test plant putting out 100kw to the grid. I can now go to someone connected to the grid and sell them up to 100kw of power and market it as 100% carbon-free fusion power!!
In reality my customer receives a little bit of power from all the various power generators on the grid so that includes a bit of nuclear, a bit of gas, etc etc.


In other words you are really paying someone to put a certain type of power into the grid, not to deliver only to you.
What this power company is doing is promising to not buy any power from a power plant using animal products to produce said power, they are not promising that you won't get any other's electrons...


And if they market their power as being from wind and solar without buying power from them they are committing a crime...
And there I was thinking that the charged electrons that I'd bought from a "green" energy supplier were mine and mine alone and that they went all the way down the wires from the point of production to my point of consumption.
I've been conned........ or I would have been if i'd fallen for the speel of the green energy suppliers.
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

  • 0 %

    Votes: 79 42.7%
  • Up to 25%

    Votes: 64 34.6%
  • 25-50%

    Votes: 30 16.2%
  • 50-75%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 75-100%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 6 3.2%

Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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