EEC farm subsidies?

[dolf_lundgren]

As mentioned above, it is not really comparing apples with apples. The US have insurances which are subsidised, NZ "subsidise" through marketing and trade deals, it is swings and roundabouts.

Support is a more rounded term and there is not an ag industry in the world which isnt supported in one way or another. Putting a figure on it is not easy though.

Our problem is our government doesn't want to support and we will be gambled away in a trade deal in favour of financial services.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Who gets our "1%"?

Kiwi Pete?

 

[Still Farming]

Was'nt Greece or Italy some land under sea ?

 

[Pilatus]

Was'nt Greece or Italy some land under sea ?

 

[two-cylinder]

You can add housing to that list too, £24 billion the UK government paid in 2014/15 in housing benefit subsidies.

and help to buy?

 

[Still Farming]

Payments for area that was under water ?

 

[glasshouse]

Y

You can add housing to that list too, £24 billion the UK government paid in 2014/15 in housing benefit subsidies.

Yes, thats the biggest sub of all.

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Kiwi Pete?

I thought 1 percent seemed quite high given the fact that most industry initiatives are levy funded like DairyNZ, Beef and Lamb.
Or did they have to round it up to 1 percent?

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Kiwi Pete?

1%?
Ffs there must be a hole in my bucket

 

[Bury the Trash]

I thought 1 percent seemed quite high given the fact that most industry initiatives are levy funded like DairyNZ, Beef and Lamb.
Or did they have to round it up to 1 percent?

it seems hardly worth claiming give it to charity...?

 

[FonterraFarmer]

it seems hardly worth claiming give it to charity...?

Like "FonterraFarmer beverage fund"?

 

[Bury the Trash]

Like "FonterraFarmer beverage fund"?

yes,as long as it s spent on Central Otago Red

 

[FonterraFarmer]

yes,as long as it s spent on Central Otago Red

I don't have that , but I do have a selection of www.mt.difficulty.co.nz pinot noir's

 

[Farmer T]

You could reasonably ask '' what countries subsidise their:
Police force,
Fire service,
Road and rail
Education,
Health etc.

It doesn't seem unreasonable for a country to subsidise its food production, unless of course it's bust and can't afford to do so - like NZ.

Interesting. So you see farming/ food as a public service?

 

[glasshouse]

Interesting. So you see farming/ food as a public service?

Its nothing less

 

[two-cylinder]

Interesting. So you see farming/ food as a public service?

It's on par with the NHS, because without us there would be malnutrition to treat.

 

[CornishTone]

It's on par with the NHS, because without us there would be malnutrition to treat.

I fear you underestimate the supermarkets ability to fill their shelves with food from anywhere in the world. If they can already get lamb from New Zealand cheaper than lamb from Wales, or veg from Spain cheaper than veg from Lincolnshire or Cornwall, why would there be malnutrition to treat?

 

[linga]

I fear you underestimate the supermarkets ability to fill their shelves with food from anywhere in the world. If they can already get lamb from New Zealand cheaper than lamb from Wales, or veg from Spain cheaper than veg from Lincolnshire or Cornwall, why would there be malnutrition to treat?

The worrying thing is. There already is malnutrition to treat

 

[FonterraFarmer]

You could reasonably ask '' what countries subsidise their:
Police force,
Fire service,
Road and rail
Education,
Health etc.

It doesn't seem unreasonable for a country to subsidise its food production, unless of course it's bust and can't afford to do so - like NZ.

Agriculture in NZ is expected to stand on it's own merit just like any other business, so no need for agricultural welfare.

 

[CornishTone]

Agriculture in NZ is expected to stand on it's own merit just like any other business, so no need for agricultural welfare.

Careful! Don’t forget your 1%!!!!