EIREXIT

[M-J-G]

Uh, no thanks. Don't want to join another team. The current arrangement is sufficient. Unless a new Irish team is created which genuinely incorporates a British Anglo/Scots identity, then it will never be inclusive of us. The whole Irish rugby team thing makes me heave, what with the green flags, the tricolour, the soldiers song, and the 'shoulder to shoulder' croon by that Phil Coulter knob.

I always wondered how some NI residents could play for the Irish team, total hypocrisy in some cases and just so they could play a game.

I'm not so anti ROI as to be at the point of heaving, but I do find it weird.

 

[SillyPhily]

Which acts by us awful Brits have you first-hand experience of?

And you'll have to point me to our mass industrialised murder / genocide in Ireland. I'm aware of some pretty unpleasant things but nothing of that order or scale.

I think you just want to hate us, and while you'll be telling others to forgive and forget because it was so long ago, you want to keep things going. Isn't that about the size of it?

Being casually called Paddy, when that's not even my name.
Do i do a list on just ?? or do i need to do some homework of elsewhere?????? etc, i would need some time for that ?. Of course you'll accept these were generally putting down populations seeking self determination and their own version of democracy* which you hold so dear?!.
I think you'll find if you can even really talk to your southern ?? family(of which i call bull?) you'd find outside of a few people(Ra' types?) over here hate or even dislike the British like your trying to paint me as. If they did in any number other than a few hardline Ra' types terror attacks would be in the news, almost daily.... Most Irish people do not look favourably on the past with Britain, and it is why we will never be close in the way you believe possible with the alternative history esq Anglo union outside of a wider European entity. Any Irish person would stop being civil if you try and glorify it and minimise the real events like you do, which is not a common event and why most british folks get a friendly and mannerly* experience. You could look up who your one time idol of Irish politic Bertie!!!(cause' he gave you what you wanted at the time) took over from to get a flavour of what goes on in Irish society regards Britain even if the events and sharper edged attitude are a little dated.
You could always voice your opinion to the Irish masses https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=7 ,though you'd be left thinking i'm actually being quite a nice person towards you reasonably quickly.
Uggh.. underlining,bolding,italicising and such excessive emoji use is too much effort and just confirms to everyone your an ?, don't you agree?

 

[jendan]

Which acts by us awful Brits have you first-hand experience of?

And you'll have to point me to our mass industrialised murder / genocide in Ireland. I'm aware of some pretty unpleasant things but nothing of that order or scale.

I think you just want to hate us, and while you'll be telling others to forgive and forget because it was so long ago, you want to keep things going. Isn't that about the size of it?


And your own 'boys' too, you know, the ones who didn't target anyone, just blew up arbitrary people without a care, kids included?

You have a reply to make............I cant wait for the next installment...........

 

[nivilla1982]

I always wondered how some NI residents could play for the Irish team, total hypocrisy in some cases and just so they could play a game.

I'm not so anti ROI as to be at the point of heaving, but I do find it weird.

Certain sports are run an all island basis so are registered with the Irish Olympic Council etc, so the only means to reach Olympic level in certain sports
The UK team at the Olympics is officially the Great Britain team partly due to an argument with the Olympic Council of Ireland.
The rugby team made the decision to remain all island during partition with game alternated between Belfast and Dublin. With the development of Landsdowne Road to a bigger ground than Ravenhill and a row over playing God Save the Queen in Belfast led to home matches played in Dublin. The Irish team only came back to Ravenhill for a warm match against Italy, the assumption been that the National Anthem of the United Kingdom would be played alongside Ireland's Call mirroring the protocol that exists for matches in Dublin, however the IRFU ruled that the match was been played outside Ireland so only Ireland's Call was played for the Irish Rugby team alongside the Italian Anthem.

 

[Cowcorn]

You have a reply to make............I cant wait for the next installment...........

Gentlemem,, please its the Christmas season peace and goodwill to all men .
A ceasefire till the new year eh!!!

 

[Danllan]

You have a reply to make............I cant wait for the next installment...........

A rare trip to the pub tonight, sorry for the wait.

Being casually called Paddy, when that's not even my name...

I really did underestimate the chip on your shoulder; my guess is that the only sort of Brit you're happy with is a liberal-apologist with a fair measure of self-hate, Jeremy Corbyn types, you know.

My experience in the Republic, as I've written before, has been overwhelmingly good, the vast majority of people being far better adjusted than yourself. For sure they think the Brits / English (even the Normans) did a lot of bad things, but - and this is the important bit - they recognise it was in the past, and they don't need it to define themselves.

I've no doubt, but I don't know, that they'd have an instinctive wariness of the UK, much as many Brits do of Germany. But I doubt greatly that any seriously consider that history would, or could, repeat itself any more than we think the Germans will attempt to exterminate the Jews or rule Europe by force again. I write of the general populations of our countries, not paranoid / unbalanced individuals.

As for your last bit, daft, very daft. You were the one saying something along the lines of an insult from an ass being a compliment. Well being called a

by a

must surely count along the same lines. Don't you agree? (though I have no idea why anyone would choose an egg plant)

Gentlemem,, please its the Christmas season peace and goodwill to all men .
A ceasefire till the new year eh!!!

I'm an atheist, but appreciate the sentiment and your intervention. Cyfarchion y Tymor!

 

[Cowcorn]

A rare trip to the pub tonight, sorry for the wait.


I really did underestimate the chip on your shoulder; my guess is that the only sort of Brit you're happy with is a liberal-apologist with a fair measure of self-hate, Jeremy Corbyn types, you know.

My experience in the Republic, as I've written before, has been overwhelmingly good, the vast majority of people being far better adjusted than yourself. For sure they think the Brits / English (even the Normans) did a lot of bad things, but - and this is the important bit - they recognise it was in the past, and they don't need it to define themselves.

I've no doubt, but I don't know, that they'd have an instinctive wariness of the UK, much as many Brits do of Germany. But I doubt greatly that any seriously consider that history would, or could, repeat itself any more than we think the Germans will attempt to exterminate the Jews or rule Europe by force again. I write of the general populations of our countries, not paranoid / unbalanced individuals.

As for your last bit, daft, very daft. You were the one saying something along the lines of an insult from an ass being a compliment. Well being called a View attachment 849351 by a View attachment 849352 must surely count along the same lines. Don't you agree? (though I have no idea why anyone would choose an egg plant)



I'm an atheist, but appreciate the sentiment and your intervention. Cyfarchion y Tymor!

Whenever the nasty stuff starts to lower the quality of whats been discussed , the fun goes out of it.
Pity because the subject of Eirexit could do with a lively airing!!

 

[nivilla1982]

Irish Freedom Party still exist?

 

[SillyPhily]

I really did underestimate the chip on your shoulder; my guess is that the only sort of Brit you're happy with is a liberal-apologist with a fair measure of self-hate, Jeremy Corbyn types, you know.

My experience in the Republic, as I've written before, has been overwhelmingly good, the vast majority of people being far better adjusted than yourself. For sure they think the Brits / English (even the Normans) did a lot of bad things, but - and this is the important bit - they recognise it was in the past, and they don't need it to define themselves.

I've no doubt, but I don't know, that they'd have an instinctive wariness of the UK, much as many Brits do of Germany. But I doubt greatly that any seriously consider that history would, or could, repeat itself any more than we think the Germans will attempt to exterminate the Jews or rule Europe by force again. I write of the general populations of our countries, not paranoid / unbalanced individuals.

As for your last bit, daft, very daft. You were the one saying something along the lines of an insult from an ass being a compliment. Well being called a View attachment 849351 by a View attachment 849352 must surely count along the same lines. Don't you agree? (though I have no idea why anyone would choose an egg plant)

Corbyn, with Mcdonnel's dreams of the socialist paradise mixed in? Do you read the Guardian for some self flagellation off the books of course to pick up on that nonsense!

How could history ever repeat it's self in the developed world when someone clever enough and enough computing could put a country in the stoneage in the modern inter connected world. If we were to rely on your interpritation of balanced and adjusted individuals we'd be fairly in the hole, you already tried that craic yesterday evening as this is going nowhere fast didn't you. For reference you do have access to a larger sample of native Irish people, if your finding current participant/s participating in a fashion unbecoming of your deeply rooted and biased assumptions. For instance the need to encourage the Irish people to leave the Eu and join your bizarre alternative history esq Anglosphere union. https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=7
What you refernce as 'people thinking' what happened and what genuinely did are quite different and it most certainly wasnt confined to Ireland either, as uncomfortable as it is for you to admit it. Do you not know the institutional knowledge that formed the rules of the internet, you certainly hold youself in far too much esteem if you think your part of the process for someone to find definition in themselves.

If your concerened on the origins of why an aubergine, have you kids you could ask?

 

[Danllan]

Corbyn, with Mcdonnel's dreams of the socialist paradise mixed in? Do you read the Guardian for some self flagellation off the books of course to pick up on that nonsense!

How could history ever repeat it's self in the developed world when someone clever enough and enough computing could put a country in the stoneage in the modern inter connected world. If we were to rely on your interpritation of balanced and adjusted individuals we'd be fairly in the hole, you already tried that craic yesterday evening as this is going nowhere fast didn't you. For reference you do have access to a larger sample of native Irish people, if your finding current participant/s participating in a fashion unbecoming of your deeply rooted and biased assumptions. For instance the need to encourage the Irish people to leave the Eu and join your bizarre alternative history esq Anglosphere union. https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=7
What you refernce as 'people thinking' what happened and what genuinely did are quite different and it most certainly wasnt confined to Ireland either, as uncomfortable as it is for you to admit it. Do you not know the institutional knowledge that formed the rules of the internet, you certainly hold youself in far too much esteem if you think your part of the process for someone to find definition in themselves.

If your concerened on the origins of why an aubergine, have you kids you could ask?

Curiouser and curiouser… still avoiding direct responses, still lashing out against the nasty Brits - expanded to the 'Anglosphere' now too, eh? Is the convenient forgetfulness and overlooking of things that you extend to your European masters partners not to be applied to the Aussies, Kiwis and Canadians? But surely you'll regain it for the ever-so imperial US of A, won't you? After all, it was in great part Irish soldiers doing the dirty work there, as they did across the British Empire too.

The more you write the more bitter you reveal yourself to be; now, anyone who has read this thread knows full well that you just hate Brits, but that you simply haven't the moral courage to come out and state it openly. Entirely understandable you hating what was done and those who did it, but hating all Brits, on 'principle' just reveals your utter stupidity. Does it include my little girl too? How about my mother, a career nurse over here? And what about a cousin of mine, she's from Scotland but worked for a few years as a GP in the ROI - no, she's pretty bad, she returned to the UK and deprived the Republic of one of its best men too... And those are just a few near to me, what of all the other awful Brits, men, women and children? Hate us all do you? Try and raise the courage to answer that directly, and we'll work on from your answer.

But, of course, you'll dismiss all these people as fictional, or one-offs or some such, won't you? And so your uncharacteristically unpleasant attitude - relative to the Irishmen I have met and know - begs the question of your bona fides. You may be a genuine individual, it's possible, but you do seem very much like a clichéd version of what a leftist over here would hope an embittered Irishman to be. Just saying...

Irony not your strong point, particularly in re vegetables?

 

[M-J-G]

Certain sports are run an all island basis so are registered with the Irish Olympic Council etc, so the only means to reach Olympic level in certain sports
The UK team at the Olympics is officially the Great Britain team partly due to an argument with the Olympic Council of Ireland.
The rugby team made the decision to remain all island during partition with game alternated between Belfast and Dublin. With the development of Landsdowne Road to a bigger ground than Ravenhill and a row over playing God Save the Queen in Belfast led to home matches played in Dublin. The Irish team only came back to Ravenhill for a warm match against Italy, the assumption been that the National Anthem of the United Kingdom would be played alongside Ireland's Call mirroring the protocol that exists for matches in Dublin, however the IRFU ruled that the match was been played outside Ireland so only Ireland's Call was played for the Irish Rugby team alongside the Italian Anthem.

Yes that kind of text is available all over the place and can easily be sourced via Google or whatever.
I don't dispute how the situation came about.

It's the fact that some with pretty staunch beliefs are prepared to play for and represent a nation that they don't support or want to be part of. Likewise I think it is hypocritical for the Irish team to have people who take exception to being called Irish.

It's certainly not something it be prepared to do.

 

[Cowcorn]

And Jesus wept........

 

[SillyPhily]

Curiouser and curiouser… still avoiding direct responses, still lashing out against the nasty Brits - expanded to the 'Anglosphere' now too, eh? Is the convenient forgetfulness and overlooking of things that you extend to your European masters partners not to be applied to the Aussies, Kiwis and Canadians? But surely you'll regain it for the ever-so imperial US of A, won't you? After all, it was in great part Irish soldiers doing the dirty work there, as they did across the British Empire too.

The more you write the more bitter you reveal yourself to be; now, anyone who has read this thread knows full well that you just hate Brits, but that you simply haven't the moral courage to come out and state it openly. Entirely understandable you hating what was done and those who did it, but hating all Brits, on 'principle' just reveals your utter stupidity. Does it include my little girl too? How about my mother, a career nurse over here? And what about a cousin of mine, she's from Scotland but worked for a few years as a GP in the ROI - no, she's pretty bad, she returned to the UK and deprived the Republic of one of its best men too... And those are just a few near to me, what of all the other awful Brits, men, women and children? Hate us all do you? Try and raise the courage to answer that directly, and we'll work on from your answer.

But, of course, you'll dismiss all these people as fictional, or one-offs or some such, won't you? And so your uncharacteristically unpleasant attitude - relative to the Irishmen I have met and know - begs the question of your bona fides. You may be a genuine individual, it's possible, but you do seem very much like a clichéd version of what a leftist over here would hope an embittered Irishman to be. Just saying...

Irony not your strong point, particularly in re vegetables?

I don't believe i ever spoke ill of those that make up the 'Anglosphere', you created that offence just there along with your idea of the whole alternative history concept of an expanded union. Ask an antipodean off here if you should feel offended for them maybe... You have raised the question of why Irish people mostly don't look on the actions of Irish soliders with any sense of pride like you and yours rather embaressment and disgust especially those 'who have committed unutterably awful crimes, genocides etc..' in the British army.
Tbf, the lovely Leo wasn't right wing enough and a strong enough anti european for you and given FF and FG are one and the same your version of left wing must be different to Irish societies. The choice is FF or FG for any right minded person from a rural and of an agri background, the only difference these days is if people think a change of party in Govt is neccissary + if someone else is needed to make up the numbers. I don't think they are far right enough for your biased view, and it shades where your view of the centre is possibly.
Your the one painting the picture of hating all British folk to write a narrative that doesn't exist, along with non existence jibes of mental illness. A serious issue for some poor unfortunates you bandy around when someone has the audasity to disagree. I simply find you and your views on Irish history like any Irish person utterly repulsive. I suspect your 'family' humour you out of politeness, though the annonimity the internet provides does draw out peoples true colours. Your very lonely in the extremity of your views, heck how many on here(a snap shot of the generally right wing and rural section of a population) temporarily joined/donated to a heading for far right party in the Uk of late .

Irony certainly is an area you excel at anyway, aubergines a bloody fruit!

 

[Danllan]

And Jesus wept........

Probably a lot.

I don't believe...

And still no direct answers, what are you afraid of? I'm flattered at the attention you've paid to my posts, although clearly you've failed to understand them, as you have the nature of the relationship between the ROI and the EU - or perhaps you do understand it full well, but just don't like to admit it publicly.

So, for the record, are we Brits, as a whole individuals aside, alright in your view, or not?

For the record, I think the people of the ROI - some individuals apart - are just fine.

An attempt at virtue flagging and hypocrisy in one go, good effort! So, you try that tired old tool of looking for some offence to find, latch on to it and claim a victimisation of the vulnerable. And yet... not so long ago you tried to question my mental capacity and disparaged LGBT people, that was different of course You are a prig and a hypocrite. And you've also been following that other track of the 'revolutionary' left, label someone of something as 'extreme', and hope it sticks. Floundering.

I'm happy to kick the arse out of this until whenever. And you'll keep on avoiding straight answers, and making jibes. We have seen that before on here, it's very familiar.

 

[M-J-G]

Probably a lot.



And still no direct answers, what are you afraid of? I'm flattered at the attention you've paid to my posts, although clearly you've failed to understand them, as you have the nature of the relationship between the ROI and the EU - or perhaps you do understand it full well, but just don't like to admit it publicly.

So, for the record, are we Brits, as a whole individuals aside, alright in your view, or not?

For the record, I think the people of the ROI - some individuals apart - are just fine.

An attempt at virtue flagging and hypocrisy in one go, good effort! So, you try that tired old tool of looking for some offence to find, latch on to it and claim a victimisation of the vulnerable. And yet... not so long ago you tried to question my mental capacity and disparaged LGBT people, that was different of course You are a prig and a hypocrite. And you've also been following that other track of the 'revolutionary' left, label someone of something as 'extreme', and hope it sticks. Floundering.

I'm happy to kick the arse out of this until whenever. And you'll keep on avoiding straight answers, and making jibes. We have seen that before on here, it's very familiar.

To you maybe

 

[SillyPhily]

Probably a lot.



And still no direct answers, what are you afraid of? I'm flattered at the attention you've paid to my posts, although clearly you've failed to understand them, as you have the nature of the relationship between the ROI and the EU - or perhaps you do understand it full well, but just don't like to admit it publicly.

So, for the record, are we Brits, as a whole individuals aside, alright in your view, or not?

For the record, I think the people of the ROI - some individuals apart - are just fine.

An attempt at virtue flagging and hypocrisy in one go, good effort! So, you try that tired old tool of looking for some offence to find, latch on to it and claim a victimisation of the vulnerable. And yet... not so long ago you tried to question my mental capacity and disparaged LGBT people, that was different of course You are a prig and a hypocrite. And you've also been following that other track of the 'revolutionary' left, label someone of something as 'extreme', and hope it sticks. Floundering.

I'm happy to kick the arse out of this until whenever. And you'll keep on avoiding straight answers, and making jibes. We have seen that before on here, it's very familiar.

Sorry, being busy earning fun tokens and help a mate solve the case of a heifer with either the immaculate conception before they ran with his bull or just 3 weeks early calving the year he upgraded his parlour so we resurected an single cluster old showmans unit.

Sher the Eu occasinally give poor farmers grant money towards building nice cattle sheds even if there's t&c's, what's there to understand or am i mistaken? I couldn't be bothered to give you an answer as your nearly wetting yourself with excitement to say why it doesn't align with your opinion and as such null and void. You do get upset when people have a differing opinion, you called some traitors and other's get threads. Actually i could have had a thread if i did, possibly even internet famous for 35 seconds until folk clicked to go back from that diatribe.
If floundering is pointing out you did contribute money to a heading for far right party, as the tories at the time made you upset as it wasn't giving the result you wanted which you hide behind notions of democracy. You nearly said it for me, For the record, I think the people of Britain - some individuals apart - are just fine. While you didn't quite have the same level of venom as your northern orange mates, you certainly are no friend to memebers of the LGBT comminuty. Was 'revolting' the word i'm sure you'll try correct me. You regularly question peoples mental capacity when you get upset and they don't agree with you, you then lash out trying to put them in a political class that soothes you or create questions of mental illness. If i was being quite as nasty as you like to protray i would have previously heavily pointed this charecteristic of your online persona of this controling and coercive type behaviour towards those you disapprove of , i hope those tendences are just an online thing. For the record i vote cright of centre, Fg or FF depending on the mood of friends,family, convictions, laterly people affected in my region and profession.
Now before you reply, i'd advise you to get a cup of tea and find some where nice and comfy. Rather than typing a response stick your fist up your hole as that's where that kind of shyte resides, though for all we know you might be into that. The new era or easy access porn does open so many more fetishes and does mean you don't really know someone til' you see their porn collection. I certainly won't be reading though others will wait for the gold, i need to go ring the cousin Sean(James to you) and tell him neither he or his Allaistar aren't welcome to the annual familial poker tournament as you reckon i take issue with him for that.

 

[Danllan]

Sorry, being busy...

Me too, but family mostly, and sheep, ugh... As for the rest, not your best; but glad that you don't hate us all. Your expertise on the odder porn sites is noted.

 

[Agrivator]

Sorry, being busy earning fun tokens and help a mate solve the case of a heifer with either the immaculate conception before they ran with his bull or just 3 weeks early calving the year he upgraded his parlour so we resurected an single cluster old showmans unit.

Sher the Eu occasinally give poor farmers grant money towards building nice cattle sheds even if there's t&c's, what's there to understand or am i mistaken? I couldn't be bothered to give you an answer as your nearly wetting yourself with excitement to say why it doesn't align with your opinion and as such null and void. You do get upset when people have a differing opinion, you called some traitors and other's get threads. Actually i could have had a thread if i did, possibly even internet famous for 35 seconds until folk clicked to go back from that diatribe.
If floundering is pointing out you did contribute money to a heading for far right party, as the tories at the time made you upset as it wasn't giving the result you wanted which you hide behind notions of democracy. You nearly said it for me, For the record, I think the people of Britain - some individuals apart - are just fine. While you didn't quite have the same level of venom as your northern orange mates, you certainly are no friend to memebers of the LGBT comminuty. Was 'revolting' the word i'm sure you'll try correct me. You regularly question peoples mental capacity when you get upset and they don't agree with you, you then lash out trying to put them in a political class that soothes you or create questions of mental illness. If i was being quite as nasty as you like to protray i would have previously heavily pointed this charecteristic of your online persona of this controling and coercive type behaviour towards those you disapprove of , i hope those tendences are just an online thing. For the record i vote cright of centre, Fg or FF depending on the mood of friends,family, convictions, laterly people affected in my region and profession.
Now before you reply, i'd advise you to get a cup of tea and find some where nice and comfy. Rather than typing a response stick your fist up your hole as that's where that kind of shyte resides, though for all we know you might be into that. The new era or easy access porn does open so many more fetishes and does mean you don't really know someone til' you see their porn collection. I certainly won't be reading though others will wait for the gold, i need to go ring the cousin Sean(James to you) and tell him neither he or his Allaistar aren't welcome to the annual familial poker tournament as you reckon i take issue with him for that.

I would never have believed that a straight-jacket could allow the occupant to type!