El Nino 2018.

wanderer

Member
Just seen that the forcasters predict another El Nino 'weather event' this winter but probably not as bad as last year....

Let's hope they are wrong as usual.
 

primmiemoo

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Location
Devon
Will the El Niño bring very, very, very wet, or very, very, very cold, do we think?

There's been a great deal happening chez moo in since winter 2015-16, and I really cannot remember what the weather was like back then! :(
 

Wastexprt

Member
BASIS
For Europe the impact of El Nino is smaller, less predictable, less well defined and more variable. The effects on Europe are complex and difficult to analyse, as it is one of several factors that influence the weather over the continent.

However, sometimes as El Nino begins there is a tendency for Europe to have greater chances of high pressure regimes, bringing drier and hotter conditions than normal for a period during the summer.
 

wanderer

Member
How does it effect the UK weather?

BRITAIN could be facing months of extreme weather as scientists confirm another El Nino event is about to start in the tropical Pacific. Sea temperatures have started to rise across the ocean amid predictions they may reach threshold values later this year.


While the effects of El Nino in Europe are under debate, experts warn it could trigger another cold British winter this year.

The US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) said there is a 70 per cent chance of an event becoming established over the next four months.

It would be the sixth to strike in the past 15 years with previous events happening in 2002/03 2004/05, 2006/07, 2009/10 and 2014/15.

El Nino - which is linked to extreme weather events across the globe - is triggered by a weakening of the easterly trade winds over the Pacific.

Posted August 2018
 

wanderer

Member
Would it be too much to hope for a very, very, very extended autumn?
Until May should do it.

Steady replenishment of groundwater with enough warmth to keep from having to tap into winter fodder ...

We're lucky in Norfolk as the water table is still normal despite the summer drought. Unfortunately farmers can't get at most of it unless they pay a fortune for it and eat into their profit margins.
 

primmiemoo

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Location
Devon
We're lucky in Norfolk as the water table is still normal despite the summer drought. Unfortunately farmers can't get at most of it unless they pay a fortune for it and eat into their profit margins.

I've heard how expensive water extraction fees are. There's no license needed to have a borehole in this area, because there's always water under the ground - but my spring has gone dry for the first time in my lifetime. We've checked for any rerouting and found none, so it's in need of a top-up from somewhere.

A cold December coming caused by El Niño could be ameliorated by the warmth stored in the ground from the heatwave, couldn't it?
 

wanderer

Member
I've heard how expensive water extraction fees are. There's no license needed to have a borehole in this area, because there's always water under the ground - but my spring has gone dry for the first time in my lifetime. We've checked for any rerouting and found none, so it's in need of a top-up from somewhere.

A cold December coming caused by El Niño could be ameliorated by the warmth stored in the ground from the heatwave, couldn't it?

Good point about the warm soil. I guess that would depend on how long the freeze lasted. Law of averages it will pelt down soon until we're sick of the sight of it.
 

primmiemoo

Member
Location
Devon
Think I've had enough freeze for a considerable while :nailbiting: . Didn't have the worst of it by any means in comparison with many, but it's surprising how often little flashbacks are triggered.

Law of averages. Yup, we'll be up to here with the wet for some reason or other. From reading elsethread, there's some who've started already :joyful: .
 

DeeGee

Member
Location
North East Wales
Just grab the newspaper headlines from the Daily Express.
They always get it right.

From ‘Britain set for the big freeze as temperatures set to plummet to below zero!’ To ‘Scorching heatwave set to roast the UK in temperatures not seen since 2012!’ and ‘Britain braced for worst ever storms to hit our shores since our records began in 2009!’ The Express is always cautious about predicting the weather.

As does the Daily Wail lead with hysterical warnings about house prices, so the Sexpress habitually predicts that our shores are about to be utterly overwhelmed by yet another meteorological Armageddon.

Meanwhile most of the other tabloids are, quite rightly, more concerned with who has lost the most weight whilst snorting cocaine before bonking someone else’s partner in the cloakroom of some celebrated nightclub.

As for the coming winter, just keep an eye on the headlines in the Daily Express and with a fistful of salt, maybe prepare for the opposite.
 

wanderer

Member
Just grab the newspaper headlines from the Daily Express.
They always get it right.

From ‘Britain set for the big freeze as temperatures set to plummet to below zero!’ To ‘Scorching heatwave set to roast the UK in temperatures not seen since 2012!’ and ‘Britain braced for worst ever storms to hit our shores since our records began in 2009!’ The Express is always cautious about predicting the weather.

As does the Daily Wail lead with hysterical warnings about house prices, so the Sexpress habitually predicts that our shores are about to be utterly overwhelmed by yet another meteorological Armageddon.

Meanwhile most of the other tabloids are, quite rightly, more concerned with who has lost the most weight whilst snorting cocaine before bonking someone else’s partner in the cloakroom of some celebrated nightclub.

As for the coming winter, just keep an eye on the headlines in the Daily Express and with a fistful of salt, maybe prepare for the opposite.

A good Tory paper now in the hands of the Mirror Group. Enjoy it while you can before Corbyn and Momentum begin to dominate the Express headlines and when it does we will all be in for rough weather... and it won't be coming from the sky.

Our only safe media haven these days is the Beano.
 

primmiemoo

Member
Location
Devon
A good Tory paper now in the hands of the Mirror Group. Enjoy it while you can before Corbyn and Momentum begin to dominate the Express headlines and when it does we will all be in for rough weather... and it won't be coming from the sky.

Our only safe media haven these days is the Beano.

Are you sure though? :sneaky:

It's 'stonishing just how much the spin docs can manipulate :barefoot:

In other news, I'm bracing for the fine details of El Govo's cunning plan [gibber emoji]
 

wanderer

Member
Are you sure though? :sneaky:

It's 'stonishing just how much the spin docs can manipulate :barefoot:

In other news, I'm bracing for the fine details of El Govo's cunning plan [gibber emoji]

As with all of the corrupt media you have to pick and choose based on common sense and logic. I agree that none of them print or present 'actual' news... only their own spin on it.
 

Gong Farmer

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Location
S E Glos
Just grab the newspaper headlines from the Daily Express.
They always get it right.

From ‘Britain set for the big freeze as temperatures set to plummet to below zero!’ To ‘Scorching heatwave set to roast the UK in temperatures not seen since 2012!’ and ‘Britain braced for worst ever storms to hit our shores since our records began in 2009!’ The Express is always cautious about predicting the weather.

As does the Daily Wail lead with hysterical warnings about house prices, so the Sexpress habitually predicts that our shores are about to be utterly overwhelmed by yet another meteorological Armageddon.

Meanwhile most of the other tabloids are, quite rightly, more concerned with who has lost the most weight whilst snorting cocaine before bonking someone else’s partner in the cloakroom of some celebrated nightclub.

As for the coming winter, just keep an eye on the headlines in the Daily Express and with a fistful of salt, maybe prepare for the opposite.
'Britain set for barbecue ice age!'


Isn't all this down to CO2 and global warming (sic) anyway?
 

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