- Location
- Northumberland
And so it will.But i would like to say yes or no to the final deal.
Election 2017 poll
- Thread starter holywell farmer
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kfpben
Member
- Location
- Mid Hampshire
Technically the PM can be in the House of Lords too.
I would say this is an anachronism but the bang on, down with the kids, electoral reform fans the Lib Dems seem to find no irony in a high number of their spokesmen on various issues being unelected peers!
SilliamWhale
Member
I suppose this is where a large tory majority is a bad thing because there are less other mps to hold them too account. Im not so fussed on having a final say more that I hope they are held to account along the way so in that respect more mps of other parties would help. But Corbynistas dont appeal, Plaid are too regional to have an effect. So I suppose Lib Dem is a possibility
no I voted for them in the poll above
after all they are the party for Scottish independence are they not seriously I don't know how I will vote yet and I have not seen much about the candidates yet, has anyone else ?
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- Beragh, Co Tyrone, Northern Ireland
Are the Alliance still a sister party of the Lib Dems? I remember when Long ousted Peter Robinson in East Belfast in 2010 there was speculation she would sit with them on Gov side of the house, but obviously she did not.
I used inverted commas on the 'sister' bit as it is a loose arrangement. They claim to be sister parties, but as you say Long did not take the Lim Deb whip.
Likewise Labour will point you to their 'sister' party the SDLP. But the SDLP have never taken the Labour whip.
The UUP, many years ago, did take the Conservative whip. Their former leader, Trimble, now sits as a Conservative in the House of Lords. Other than that, the UUP do not take the whip these days.
- Location
- Beragh, Co Tyrone, Northern Ireland
Aye the SDLP and Labour relationship is the often quoted reason why they (Labour) wont stand candidates in this part of the United Kingdom.
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- Northern Ireland
I'd vote other
- Location
- Lincolnshire
And how is that going to work out?
So the best deal than can be achieved by expert negotiators is reached after months of painstaking work and extremely difficult negotiations and then know-it-all Jo public vetoes it.
What then? The EU won't do another negotiation, not a chance, so it's default position of hard Brexit and WTO rules throwing away all the work of the negotiations.
Or cancel Brexit defying the will of the people who voted for reclamation of our sovereignty. Good luck with that one.
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- Lincolnshire
If you are trying to negotiate a deal, the very worst thing you can have is division and in fighting on your own side. It just weakens you.
The public know this. This is why the Tories will win a huge majority. The pip squeak Farron looks like he would wreck any sort of negotiations and Corbyn is in a complete muddle over it.
There's only one sensible choice.
The public know this. This is why the Tories will win a huge majority. The pip squeak Farron looks like he would wreck any sort of negotiations and Corbyn is in a complete muddle over it.
There's only one sensible choice.
- Location
- Northumberland
"Expert negotiators" as in Fox,Davis,and Johnson.? You are saying we should just accept any deal,on the basis "it was the best they could do" How do you know the EU wont negotiate again if our electorate say "its not good enough for us" Plenty of you brexiters keep saying that the EU needs us more than we need them.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
By electing the right representatives we select them and put our trust in them to achieve a good deal on Brexit just as we give them the authority to formulate the budget, and many other functions of government.
We have our say on 8th June.
holywell farmer
Member
- Location
- holywell, north wales
I'm looking forward to election night
so if we have another vote on the deal and we say no to it do you really think the the EU would say oh dear tell you what we will give you a better deal , what planet are you living on
- Location
- Northumberland
I see.So they dont need us more than we need them after all.so if we have another vote on the deal and we say no to it do you really think the the EU would say oh dear tell you what we will give you a better deal , what planet are you living on
they need us more inside than outside, they dont want us to leave because we are such a major contributor.
Put it this way if you had a partner that paid more into a business than they took out and they told you, I am fed up and want to leave lets sort out a deal to split, if its good I will go if not I will stay, would you really offer a good deal ?
- Location
- Northumberland
One of the main arguments given by the brexiters was that we would get a good deal when we left,re trade etc,because "they need us more than we need them".Something that i and many other people thought was utter nonsense,and which you are confirming.
So just ignore my post and keep saying the same old lame tag line. Will you answer my point ?
They need our money to keep up their vision of a US of Europe, of course we want to trade with them as freely as possible just as their companies want to with us, as we have a large trade deficit with them they will end up paying far more in tariffs, even more so as food products carry higher tariffs, for what reason would they have to make trading more difficult and expensive for themselves or us ?
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- Northumberland
I am trying to answer as good as i can.The original 6 plus the next 4 largest will keep the EU going without our money.They are all united on that front.The deal we will get will never be as good as the one we have now.
RobFZS
Member
Depends who you're asking, if you sell sweet FA to the EU and want migration controlling, it's gonna be a pretty good deal.