Election 2017 poll

[Hindsight]

I am trying to answer as good as i can.The original 6 plus the next 4 largest will keep the EU going without our money.They are all united on that front.The deal we will get will never be as good as the one we have now.

You may be correct. This mess is a result of the Mastricht Treaty and adoption of the Euro as a single currency and the freedoms. The original core 6 countries can deal with this. I doubt long term if the rest can without continual subsidy from Germany. My crystal ball suggest in time (an I am afraid I cannot forecast the timescale) as change with an inner Euro core and an outer looser arrangement. Somehow at some stage the senior politicians will have to tackle the problem of the Euro - it does not fit all these economies.

 

[uztrac]

I am trying to answer as good as i can.The original 6 plus the next 4 largest will keep the EU going without our money.They are all united on that front.The deal we will get will never be as good as the one we have now.

Not an issue for me,what I don't want is our military controlled by the UNELECTED in Brussels.

 

[joe soapy]

no I voted for them in the poll above after all they are the party for Scottish independence are they not

seriously I don't know how I will vote yet and I have not seen much about the candidates yet, has anyone else ?

I tried to do the same, seems the poll is closed, election over

 

[Henarar]

I tried to do the same, seems the poll is closed, election over

who won ?

 

[Billhook]

I am trying to answer as good as i can.The original 6 plus the next 4 largest will keep the EU going without our money.They are all united on that front.The deal we will get will never be as good as the one we have now.

I am continually amazed by your ability to make such accurate financial forecasts.
Especially in view of this Financial Times report which demonstrates clearly that supposed financial experts have failed dismally in their forecasts

https://www.ft.com/content/14e323ee-e602-11e3-aeef-00144feabdc0

I cannot recall one person in the financial pundit world who stated in the run up to the Referendum that the FTSE would reach 7500 one year after Brexit.

 

[RobFZS]

I am continually amazed by your ability to make such accurate financial forecasts.
Especially in view of this Financial Times report which demonstrates clearly that supposed financial experts have failed dismally in their forecasts

https://www.ft.com/content/14e323ee-e602-11e3-aeef-00144feabdc0

I cannot recall one person in the financial pundit world who stated in the run up to the Referendum that the FTSE would reach 7500 one year after Brexit.

It still tickles me how all the nobheads were having a fit before the ref that the ftse dropped abit and were blaming it on brexit jitters, and now it's at a record high, they say nothing what so ever

 

[joe soapy]

who won ?

looked like there was a tory landslide, now ever since, teresa been trying to collapse her voter base

 

[joe soapy]

It still tickles me how all the nobheads were having a fit before the ref that the ftse dropped abit and were blaming it on brexit jitters, and now it's at a record high, they say nothing what so ever

We aint out of the woods yet, the massive printing of money will have an effect in time.
Dont have toooo much problem with the money being printed, but the way its been distributed is pretty appaling, From what i can work out, the mega rich have collared the money
but left the poor with the debt

 

[jendan]

I am continually amazed by your ability to make such accurate financial forecasts.
Especially in view of this Financial Times report which demonstrates clearly that supposed financial experts have failed dismally in their forecasts

https://www.ft.com/content/14e323ee-e602-11e3-aeef-00144feabdc0

I cannot recall one person in the financial pundit world who stated in the run up to the Referendum that the FTSE would reach 7500 one year after Brexit.

I dont get your post.I was not talking about the FTSE,which goes up and down all the time,and is not a good measure of anything really.It was about the original members of the EU and their will to keep it together without our money.The full brexit has not even started yet,so we dont know what the outcome will be.

 

[rob1]

I am trying to answer as good as i can.The original 6 plus the next 4 largest will keep the EU going without our money.They are all united on that front.The deal we will get will never be as good as the one we have now.

I dont get your post.I was not talking about the FTSE,which goes up and down all the time,and is not a good measure of anything really.It was about the original members of the EU and their will to keep it together without our money.The full brexit has not even started yet,so we dont know what the outcome will be.

Well in the first post you seem to claim you do, the truth is NO one knows what will happen in the end,if common sense prevails then it will be fine, if spite and political revenge is the order of the day then it is possible things might get rough for a while, but do you really want to be part of a group that has to bully members to keep it together and thats tries to punish those that want to leave, some club that is

 

[jendan]

I am continually amazed by your ability to make such accurate financial forecasts.
Especially in view of this Financial Times report which demonstrates clearly that supposed financial experts have failed dismally in their forecasts

https://www.ft.com/content/14e323ee-e602-11e3-aeef-00144feabdc0

I cannot recall one person in the financial pundit world who stated in the run up to the Referendum that the FTSE would reach 7500 one year after Brexit.

As an aside,and now that "you are amazed by my accurate forecasts",if you have alot of money in shares FTSE listed,i would sell the lot when its an all time high,and then buy them back when its back down to 5000 again.

 

[Muck Spreader]

I dont get your post.I was not talking about the FTSE,which goes up and down all the time,and is not a good measure of anything really.It was about the original members of the EU and their will to keep it together without our money.The full brexit has not even started yet,so we dont know what the outcome will be.

It is fairly obvious that the Ftse 100 would rise on the Brexit result. Most of the companies on it are international so earn their income in non-sterling currencies. When the pound falls they get more pounds for the same amount of trade and as UK companies they report in sterling, so hay presto instant increase in profitability. Having said all that there is a steady general global upturn in most world economies at the moment.

 

[Henarar]

the truth is NO one knows what will happen in the end,if common sense prevails then it will be fine, if spite and political revenge is the order of the day then it is possible things might get rough for a while, but do you really want to be part of a group that has to bully members to keep it together and thats tries to punish those that want to leave, some club that is

spot on

 

[czechmate]

It still tickles me how all the nobheads were having a fit before the ref that the ftse dropped abit and were blaming it on brexit jitters, and now it's at a record high, they say nothing what so ever

This post reminds me of all the brexituuurs saying how Austria, Holand and France were all going to vote to leave the eu and thus, the eu was going to tumble like a pack of cards. I am tickled too

 

[linga]

This post reminds me of all the brexituuurs saying how Austria, Holand and France were all going to vote to leave the eu and thus, the eu was going to tumble like a pack of cards. I am tickled too

Dont think "all" is quite correct..weasel words

 

[RobFZS]

This post reminds me of all the brexituuurs saying how Austria, Holand and France were all going to vote to leave the eu and thus, the eu was going to tumble like a pack of cards. I am tickled too

Yeh, it's asif all the Euro zone issues, youth unemployment etc etc are all over because some fascists with no chance didn't get in, oh wait, the issues are still there

 

[czechmate]

Yeh, it's asif all the Euro zone issues, youth unemployment etc etc are all over because some fascists with no chance didn't get in, oh wait, the issues are still there

Show me any place in the world without "issues"

 

[RobFZS]

Show me any place in the world without "issues"

Norway seems to be doing pretty well

 

[Muck Spreader]

Norway seems to be doing pretty well

Just like Scotland would.

 

[Danllan]

I am a Conservative by habit, but that's because I am a Unionist by instinct. If I were in NI I would be a UUP supporter, bus as for politics here on the mainland...

I think that the Liberal Democrats are neither liberal nor democratic, the only policy I agree with that they hold - and could be trusted to deliver - is PR, but I want it because I am a democrat, they want it because it will make them 'kingmakers'. A tyranny by a majority is an awful thing in a supposed democracy; a tyranny by a minority - the Lib' Dem's - would be even worse. This is the only thing that gives me pause for thought as to whether a change to PR would actually mean an end to relative political stability.

Labour would probably try and turn us in to a republic eventually, something I do agree with. But that's it for them, they simply can't be trusted with anything that involves security, the economy or stability. Just thinking about the four most powerful people in the UK being Jeremy Corbyn, John McDonnell, Diane Abbott and Emily Thornberry turns my stomach with loathing and concern.

UKIP were a party I supported, joined, campaigned and stood for - all with no regrets. But is was always just a pressure group to get the Conservative party back to its proper place. That written, it was the most successful campaign group in political history and despite some of the idiots on its fringe, I think that in the long term the country will look back on it with gratitude. But it's dead now, job done.

Here in Wales we have Plaid Cymru as a choice... as a party they are about as left-wing as Jeremy Corbyn. They don't have the numbers to produce a realistic pool of talent for any form of government above county level and are so dogmatic it is painful. I would vote for my current Plaid candidate at county level, but that is because I know her personally through community and PTA work and she is a good and decent woman - and not a revolutionary socialist - and, anyway, there were no other candidates in the recent county elections.

And so back to the Conservatives, far from perfect, not entirely trustworthy and with some utter irrelevances in senior roles. However, Theresa May is by far the least worse option of the possible Prime Ministers after June 8th. I think she would try for a softer Brexit than I would like, but I also think that she would walk away if the EU were simply insulting, which is a hell of an improvement upon David Cameron.

I hope that there will be a Conservative majority of around fifty, to allow internal party pressure to influence the PM and because I think it healthier for our democracy. It should be noted that of 'new' Conservative PPCs, a large majority are pro-Brexit, therefore a Conservative landslide might not necessarily mean a watered down Brexit ; I guess that there will be a majority of a hundred or so.