Electric fencing inside grain store for rodents

[Wigeon]

Anyone done it?

Any reason why the following wouldn't work:

one strand of say horse tape and inch off the top of the grain walling connected to the energiser. Energiser earthed to an upright. Second strand not energised, laid flat along the top of the walling and underneath the other, connected to the upright to ensure a good earth when the rat touches both tapes.

Other than the little brutes clambering over the insulators for the top strand, is there any reason why this wouldn't be a good idea, and would it be effective?

Not that we have a rodent problem of course.

Thanks!

 

[rob1]

have heard of people using boards with several wires on round combines etc to keep them out

 

[Dry Rot]

I read a post many moons ago where someone had protected a stack of wrapped bales from rats with electrified wire netting. The netting was insulated from the ground with old alkathene water pipe. The pipe was split lengthways and the bottom of the net inserted in the splt. All he had to do then was spray roundup along the foot of the net occasionally. Netting used to be avaliable in different widths, so a roll about a foot wide would be more than adequate.

As an aside, I left a piece of electrified tape lying on the ground. A few days later I went back to repair the fence. There was a line of dead frogs along the tape, presumably all electrocuted!

 

[dannewhouse]

Anyone done it?

Any reason why the following wouldn't work:

one strand of say horse tape and inch off the top of the grain walling connected to the energiser. Energiser earthed to an upright. Second strand not energised, laid flat along the top of the walling and underneath the other, connected to the upright to ensure a good earth when the rat touches both tapes.

Other than the little brutes clambering over the insulators for the top strand, is there any reason why this wouldn't be a good idea, and would it be effective?

Not that we have a rodent problem of course.

Thanks!

I don't see why this wouldn't work with the lower wire (attached to panel) neutral wired straight from a plug and then the higher wire through insulators as long as its pulled tight not catching straight to live, put it on say 3amp fused plug and will kill rat then fuse or fuse if anyone got on it?

 

[Dry Rot]

I don't see why this wouldn't work with the lower wire (attached to panel) neutral wired straight from a plug and then the higher wire through insulators as long as its pulled tight not catching straight to live, put it on say 3amp fused plug and will kill rat then fuse or fuse if anyone got on it?

Eh? You surely are not suggesting straight off the mains....? That would invalidate insurance for a start and be a very high fire risk, particularly in a grain store!

 

[David.]

Can you guarantee that an electric shock might not cause the rat or mouse to lose control of it's bowels, you might then have to be suspended from Red Tractor scheme, until you can convince them that it can't happen again.

 

[dannewhouse]

Eh? You surely are not suggesting straight off the mains....? That would invalidate insurance for a start and be a very high fire risk, particularly in a grain store!

ive herd of loads doing similar as mentioned above

whats the difference between the mains spark than an electric fencer? on a 3amp fuse it would blow some of these energisers put out 10,000 V that's a fare spark and they jump on a short

 

[Philip Watkins]

ive herd of loads doing similar as mentioned above

whats the difference between the mains spark than an electric fencer? on a 3amp fuse it would blow some of these energisers put out 10,000 V that's a fare spark and they jump on a short

An electric fence unit puts out lots of volts but bugger all amps that's why you get a shock but don't get killed. Amps kill, volts make you let go. Fence units are short shock, mains is continuous.

 

[Dry Rot]

As PW says.

Also, all it needs is a spark.

Wikipedia:

"Dust explosions can occur where any dispersed powdered combustible material is present in high enough concentrations in the atmosphere or other oxidizing gaseous medium such as oxygen. Dust explosions are a frequent hazard in underground coal mines, in grain elevators, and other industrial environments".

 

[Badshot]

My electrician insisted on particular sockets that turn the power off before it's possible to unplug, this was due to spark followed by explosion risk.

 

[Exfarmer]

Before the mains came to our farm in Buckinghamshire the owners at the time had installed an 80 DC generator system. The + and - wires ran round the buildings in between twin china insulators about 3 inches apart. The wires were tensioned and bare, to run a lamp or a motor all you needed was a a cable and some crocodile clips. It was perfectly safe even if you touched both 80 volts was not much to give a big shock.
When the mains arrived, they simply hooked live and nuetral to the system
Although much had been disconnected before I came along, it was not uncommon to discover a dead rat fried across the line. A wooden stick was OK to dislodge it.
I have a vivid memory of one man grabbing an odd cable one day to pull it off the wall, to find it was very much live, lucky he had wellies on. The whole system was removed shortly after