Electric or hybrid cars

Ley253

Member
Location
Bath
The Op needs to give the Pug a good long hard run.Diesels hate low load running, becoming carbon collectors. For example, Foden FD6 generator engines would completely choke the exhaust ports in a couple of weeks at low load, at full load, they were still clean after three years!
 

Lincsman

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
My wife has a 70 mile round trip for work on almost all A roads and motorway so that's beyond a Nissan Leaf without charging in work time?

Might be fine on nice summer days with not much traffic, in winter crawling along in snow with heater on she would be lucky to get to work... therein lies the problem
 

Scrambler

Member
Location
Leicestershire
My wife has a 70 mile round trip for work on almost all A roads and motorway so that's beyond a Nissan Leaf without charging in work time?

The new i3 and I think the Nissan Leaf are both able to do that easily even in winter. My i3 has the older battery and it would be at its limit doing 70 miles in really cold conditions, but it has the range extender option which is a small engine that can charge the batteries whilst you are driving, essentially giving it unlimited range.
 

phillipe

Member
The new i3 and I think the Nissan Leaf are both able to do that easily even in winter. My i3 has the older battery and it would be at its limit doing 70 miles in really cold conditions, but it has the range extender option which is a small engine that can charge the batteries whilst you are driving, essentially giving it unlimited range.
how big is the fuel tank for the onboard engine?
 

Scrambler

Member
Location
Leicestershire
Out of interest how does the cabin heater work on these? Do they have Webasco type night heaters? I would think that if you wanted to get the car defrosted and warm on a winter's morning on battery it would crucify your range.

The BMW i3 can preheat the batteries and cabin either by pre programming it on the screen in the car or remotely via the phone app.
As long as it's plugged in, this will increase the range.
 

Y Fan Wen

Member
Location
N W Snowdonia
Who would have thought that you'd need to preheat the batteries. Makes sense I suppose though as lithium chemistry (well most batteries really) efficiency drops off as temps drop. Probably more of a problem in the depths of Canada in the winter rather than Blighty perhaps.
Reading a history of the Trans Antarctic Expedition, the one where they used TE20's, they had systems to warm up the batteries before use. I suppose they didn't have the fuel to just keep running.
 

franklin

New Member
My wife has a 70 mile round trip for work on almost all A roads and motorway so that's beyond a Nissan Leaf without charging in work time?

Nope. With the school run ours does similar every day. If you turn the heater on it sucks battery. Trick is to use the timers to have the car "wake up" while plugged in and defrost itself / warm the steering wheel / warm your seat etc. Running the heater uses a lot of electric. Keeping your coat on and turning on the heated seats does not.

You can save a lot of miles by careful driving - best bet is to just demo one for a day or two. Or get work to put a charger in.
 

JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
One of my very best friends Has been running a bmw i3 for 3 years now. Admittily I is a company car, but he loves it and has convinced me too.
Its running costs are astonishing. His previous diesel exec car was costing £68 in fuel a week, compaired to £2.80 in electric. There is no servicing to do.
And being a company car, it is very very tax efficient for him.
The battery's don't die at 5 years, they just pass their optimum and so the available range will slowly decline. Its nothing to worry about.
Good for him but in my book anyone who has an all electric car as a Company car has it as a perk in my book. No way a proper company car would have the range.

And unless anyone has their own windmill it should be illegal to call an electric car zero emissions. #totalmindcontrol
 

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