Electricity Pylon Concerns.

Wooly

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Romney Marsh
Always thought that if you live in a house without electricity then you have got a right to complain. But if you want to turn the light on in a flick of the switch, then you or someone has to put up with pylons.

At least you know what the relative humitity is in the air when you have pylons.............. the damper it is, the louder they hum. :whistle:
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
We live within 80 mtrs of a high voltage pylon for 15 years and not noticed any health effects as yet. Yes it does hum loud in fog,rain etc in excess of 60 db so the Nimby's wanting to object to my 250kw wind turbine at 40 db do not have a leg to stand on. Its quite a party trick walking underneath the wires and the flourescent tube lights up. Negatives are certainly house prices and getting a house sale due to the perceived negative press on the internet. Next door converted barn which is only 30 mtrs from the Pylon has been on the market for over 9 years and price reduced over £300k but still no sale although I personally believe its not sold for other reasons besides the Pylon. Need to be very careful running fence lines or copper pipes close to the wires as you could receive a shock sufficient to kill. As for bees we have not noticed any problems with our hives.
 

grumpy

Member
Location
Fife
We live within 80 mtrs of a high voltage pylon for 15 years and not noticed any health effects as yet. Yes it does hum loud in fog,rain etc in excess of 60 db so the Nimby's wanting to object to my 250kw wind turbine at 40 db do not have a leg to stand on. Its quite a party trick walking underneath the wires and the flourescent tube lights up. Negatives are certainly house prices and getting a house sale due to the perceived negative press on the internet. Next door converted barn which is only 30 mtrs from the Pylon has been on the market for over 9 years and price reduced over £300k but still no sale although I personally believe its not sold for other reasons besides the Pylon. Need to be very careful running fence lines or copper pipes close to the wires as you could receive a shock sufficient to kill. As for bees we have not noticed any problems with our hives.
what?they were painting ours this summer and had the power off on one side of the pylons as the painters painted the other side,did ask them are you in danger of getting fried?nah its the falling off that will end us was the replie.
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
Only reason why the painters where safe would be because the power lines turned off had been grounded to take into account the induced current. Unfortunately that is not always the case even by those in the industry

https://www.osha.gov/pls/imis/accidentsearch.accident_detail?id=200451938

So what chance have we got as farmers to this silent killer which could be as simple as cleaning an unearthed metal gutter on a metal ladder on a farm in the shadow of a high voltage line.
 

grumpy

Member
Location
Fife
Only reason why the painters where safe would be because the power lines turned off had been grounded to take into account the induced current. Unfortunately that is not always the case even by those in the industry

https://www.osha.gov/pls/imis/accidentsearch.accident_detail?id=200451938

So what chance have we got as farmers to this silent killer which could be as simple as cleaning an unearthed metal gutter on a metal ladder on a farm in the shadow of a high voltage line.
the power was live on the other side of the pylon,
 
Hi.


We are 'reliably' (cough cough) told by the company in charge that there is no health risk associated with these.

However a quick Goolgle and you find plenty of reports on Human/Animal/environmental risks etc.

My uncle farmed under one of these lines with a pylon right by the house. His one daughter was born with a number of health problems which the doctors put down to living in close proximity to the pylons. She's had a hard life but is a tough little bugger, the doctors are amazed how she carries on
 

grumpy

Member
Location
Fife
My uncle farmed under one of these lines with a pylon right by the house. His one daughter was born with a number of health problems which the doctors put down to living in close proximity to the pylons. She's had a hard life but is a tough little bugger, the doctors are amazed how she carries on
that is total rubbish,and if any doctor said that he has his own agenda and if any one was stupid enough to believe that i blame genetics.
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
the power was live on the other side of the pylon,

Thats not the point the actual pylon would be earthed and the insulators would protect the workers from the live wire. On the non live side is the danger from the induced current which is why you always see wires on the non live side to earth when the painters are working.
 

grumpy

Member
Location
Fife
Thats not the point the actual pylon would be earthed and the insulators would protect the workers from the live wire. On the non live side is the danger from the induced current which is why you always see wires on the non live side to earth when the painters are working.
@Sleepy stop me now me fave story,tattie box and?
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
The pylon is always earthed just think about it.
The reason for the earth strap is simple, it is to prevent accidental re connection of any power. If this happened there is a strong risk of flashover to the worker on the pylon.
 

RushesToo

Member
Location
Fingringhoe
When they go up there is awful clanging and banging and cows will lose calves. Was a case in FG a few years back.
They do hum less when it is dry. Other than that hitting them with vehicles seems to be the worst by product.
 

milkloss

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
I always get concerned with this sort of thing about objectors missing out. I think you may be wise to take an NFU attitude on this one: Work with and not against them. It is highly unlikely you're going to get them buried so see what you can get.

We got an £18k driveway when they wanted access to replace the 400k wires and 5 new gateways with gates. Use your concerns to get what you want, double glazing for the noise maybe? New conservatory looking the other way so you don't have to look at it? Work them as hard as you can.
 

Robigus

Member
I would think long and hard before you campaign to have them buried.

They need to be well spread out to dissipate the heat and will take up a lot of land, in an arable situation I would rather work under them than over them.

Obviously once they are under the ground you are very restricted with any changes you want to make above them.
 

roscoe erf

Member
Livestock Farmer
I would think long and hard before you campaign to have them buried.

They need to be well spread out to dissipate the heat and will take up a lot of land, in an arable situation I would rather work under them than over them.

Obviously once they are under the ground you are very restricted with any changes you want to make above them.
You can't do much under them but I hear what your saying
 

Robigus

Member
You can't do much under them but I hear what your saying
You can work and dig under them; you can put in and take out tracks and ditches and hedges; and if we are talking about the big ones you can put sheds under them.
We have them, luckily not too close to the yard, and I would definitely rather have them up where they are than running in a giant swath across the land under ground.
 

joe soapy

Member
Location
devon
I always get concerned with this sort of thing about objectors missing out. I think you may be wise to take an NFU attitude on this one: Work with and not against them. It is highly unlikely you're going to get them buried so see what you can get.

We got an £18k driveway when they wanted access to replace the 400k wires and 5 new gateways with gates. Use your concerns to get what you want, double glazing for the noise maybe? New conservatory looking the other way so you don't have to look at it? Work them as hard as you can.


You did well!!. I found them to promise all sorts at the start, but very little actually delivered
would suggest that every time you talk to them record it at least.
and write out what is agreed that day and get it sighned.
Same when work is being done, daily diary, sighned by foreman after every week or chargeable occurance.

The companies run two teams of negotiators, A really helpful, friendly and approachably at the start,
then a different set of crooks at the time to payup, who will deny everything previously agreed
 

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