Didn't you know that everyone that doesn't entirely agree with the collective is working for Russia if not living there, you only have to read TFF to know that, now I know you are new here but that is first week stuff.
Elon Musk pay $44 b for ....
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I'm changing my name to rasputin Russia's greatest love machineDidn't you know that everyone that doesn't entirely agree with the collective is working for Russia if not living there, you only have to read TFF to know that, now I know you are new here but that is first week stuff.
ollie989898
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Please tell me, what is 'deeply wrong with how social media platforms are run'?
essex man
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Censorship, deplatforming etc
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Pieces_of_Eight
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I've heard this from other people e.g. he could bought each US state 10 new hospitals etc etc.
Do people not realise he has another $44bn down the back of his sofa, then another $44bn rattling about in his ashtray in his Tesla?
If he wants to waste $44bn on something that appears overpriced, just remember that governments collectively p!ss away billions (of our money) every single minute.
(But I did also wonder how $44bn could be used to help Ukraine or to damage Russia.)
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I gather he has to borrow a lot if it
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TFF classifieds is shyte
ollie989898
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Spending 44 billion on Twitter seems a roundabout way of improving these.
I see the EU are going to ban twitter if Musk lets the platform degenerate from it's core principles of vaccine misinformation and conspiracy theories.
ollie989898
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Censorship/de-platforming. Look, its their website/platform. When you sign up to such things, there is a list of small print. If you agree to abide by their rules, you are good to go. If you do not, they will stop you using their platform. Most websites or systems are the same. There are stiff laws for companies who allow their platforms to be used to incite illegal acts or for posting illegal content. Get with the program- there is no free speech on twitter, it's not a country or state, it's a company who provide their platform for you to use, free of charge, provided you stay within their own little rules.
If you don't like that or can't stay within the limits they require, don't use their service- use someone else's or start your own? It's not rocket science these days.
toquark
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Banning a democratically elected president on the basis of hate speech and spreading misinformation whilst simultaneously allowing the Taliban, Mohammed Bin Salman, and Vladimir Putin’s accounts to remain open for starters.
ollie989898
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The fact someone is democratically elected is of no consequence. Have the Taliban, Vladimir Putin or anyone else contravened Twitters content or posting rules though? If you can't abide by them, you're banned. It's that simple.
toquark
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Ok then…
How about suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop story? Or the lab leak theory? Or any criticism of the covid narrative? Or any criticism of Black Lives Matter?
Twitter isn’t some inconsequential echo chamber, it is highly influential, it has the power to sway election results and national discourse. The power the social media platforms wield is immense and has proven to be very easily corrupted/manipulated.
Do I think Musk will be the saviour? No, but I think he does recognise the above issues and the problems they’ve led to in the US and further afield in recent years. Whether he can effect change remains to be seen.
ollie989898
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It may well be highly influential. HOWEVER, it is a private company and they set the rules which govern what their users may or may not do on it. If people can't follow those rules, they get banned, it is as simple as that.
It's not different to other media, they can't post certain kinds of material because laws stop them from doing so. Everything else is up to the company responsible. The BBC is hardly a fountain of truth either, it is selective on what it chooses to broadcast and how it paints a lot of scenarios, too.
What Hunter Biden laptop theory? What lab leak? What covid narrative? Black lives matter? Who the fudge relies on Twitter of all places for anything accurate or legit? It's all vent your spleen in 250 characters or less. It is all opinion.
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The answer to this is simple , set up your own social media site/ forum. Anyone can do it , if Elon Musk scares off the liberals Twitter will disappear. Also we should realise Musk is no great friend of a certain Donald.
both Russia and China have tried to set up alternatives to the big socisl media giants here , but none have got going in the west
both Russia and China have tried to set up alternatives to the big socisl media giants here , but none have got going in the west
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I maybe used to think the same. Not so much now.
I’m quite interested where Musk will go with this. Free speech is not natural, not common and should be protected. While twitter is not the be all end all of speaking freely. It seems to be where many voice their opinions now days, or try to. He appears to be interested in creating some transparency in the rules and maybe gearing it more towards unfettered freedom of speech. Good on him
ollie989898
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But Twitter doesn't have free speech. There is no such thing actually. If I went and posted ISIL propaganda videos, I would be banned rapidly and probably have the FBI on my case in no time. It is the same as someone shouting hate speech in the street or putting graffiti on a church to inspire terrorism or similar. It's not legal- you are allowed a degree of freedom of expression, but it is not absolute and nor should it be. I'm not sure exactly what Elon intends to change, if he tries hard enough then I suspect a lot of people will leave twitter as there are plenty of other alternatives. If you are saying that twitter is inconsistently moderating people's content to the extent that it is influencing elections or the like, then don't read or use their service, surely?
toquark
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Well yes that’s how I deal with it - I don’t use it or engage with it at all. Same with rolling news and Facebook. But politicians and the media are pretty obsessed with it for better or worse. It sets the narrative. So whilst we can all make individual choices to stay away - and the vast majority do - that doesn’t change the fact that elections and policy decisions which affect us all are being influenced by it. Which would be ok if it weren’t being moderated by woke 20 year olds in San Francisco.
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