End of the Road for Small Livestock Farms?

digger64

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interesting lets do some maths

buy in may at 350kg at 250ppk for £875, sell in oct at 462kg at 230ppk for £1062 leaving £187 margin, take £40 for commission £30 for fert £17.50 for mortality and £20 for fences/water/fuel leaving £79.50, stock at 1.5 per acre so £120/acre profit, sound about right?
erm rent /labour/vet/haulage ? and( 1.5 per acre might be ok in a high rainfall area)
 

4course

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Location
north yorks
interesting lets do some maths

buy in may at 350kg at 250ppk for £875, sell in oct at 462kg at 230ppk for £1062 leaving £187 margin, take £40 for commission £30 for fert £17.50 for mortality and £20 for fences/water/fuel leaving £79.50, stock at 1.5 per acre so £120/acre profit, sound about right?
profit? where are the fixed costs in your maths ,think its a loss and thats without the missing costs not mentioned
 

Hilly

Member
interesting lets do some maths

buy in may at 350kg at 250ppk for £875, sell in oct at 462kg at 230ppk for £1062 leaving £187 margin, take £40 for commission £30 for fert £17.50 for mortality and £20 for fences/water/fuel leaving £79.50, stock at 1.5 per acre so £120/acre profit, sound about right?
Most of the time buy in spring sell in autum for same or less 😂
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
interesting lets do some maths

buy in may at 350kg at 250ppk for £875, sell in oct at 462kg at 230ppk for £1062 leaving £187 margin, take £40 for commission £30 for fert £17.50 for mortality and £20 for fences/water/fuel leaving £79.50, stock at 1.5 per acre so £120/acre profit, sound about right?
the price gain don't look far off, if you were doing nothing but grazing the fert could be cut down.
sell in oct and turn round a buy some store lambs, sell them in jan, rest the land go on holiday, start again jobs a good un
 
Why is grass poor ?

Derrick

It is heavy clay land on slopes, the north facing sides are cold and wettish but will grow grass from May to October, the south facing grows from April most years but has a tendency to burn off in a dry summer.
It has been limed and is typical wealden grassland that gets wet in winter and rock hard in summer.

It could be "improved" with better grasses but I doubt they would be persistent enough or cost effective over the long term with small fields, hedges and in field trees.
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Derrick

It is heavy clay land on slopes, the north facing sides are cold and wettish but will grow grass from May to October, the south facing grows from April most years but has a tendency to burn off in a dry summer.
It has been limed and is typical wealden grassland that gets wet in winter and rock hard in summer.

It could be "improved" with better grasses but I doubt they would be persistent enough or cost effective over the long term with small fields, hedges and in field trees.
In other words not like Derick's boys soil potato land :ROFLMAO:
 

BrianV

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Livestock Farmer
Nowt easy .
Cattle dealers have always done well, do not feel pressured to buy & be prepared to spend a lot of time at the market staying to the very end, there is alway a pen that makes less than it should if you have the patience, that is the ones you will make money on, be prepared to buy & sell through out the season
 

Hilly

Member
Cattle dealers have always done well, do not feel pressured to buy & be prepared to spend a lot of time at the market staying to the very end, there is alway a pen that makes less than it should if you have the patience, that is the ones you will make money on, be prepared to buy & sell through out the season
To be fair i prefer selling , I’m a cow man not a finisher or anything , cows are my thing.
 

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