Risk assessment first, I guess?I can tell you that no vet around me would prescribe Alamycin prophylacticly. How can that be justified?
Risk assessment first, I guess?I can tell you that no vet around me would prescribe Alamycin prophylacticly. How can that be justified?
Always get a handful abort before lambing gets going but was noticeably more last year. Took fresh foetus to LVA and got a diagnosis there and then. No toxo found. Jabbed with alamycin and repeated 21 days later as ewes began aborting again. Be interesting to see how this year starts.......It all seems a bit "suck and see" on timings, as is the use of LA in a flock in a storm!
My vet was of the view it was worth a few quid but there was nothing concrete, and there was no quantified evidence... However user feedback, was that it's worth doing...
I felt from a lot of reading up, that the LA showed some benefit as I was seeing live/dead lambs and a few weaker lambs (who survived) which might have been the result of the LA from 4r weeks before. Without maybe more deaths...??
I guess. Vets around here are very cautious about what they prescribe.Risk assessment first, I guess?
Rightly so....I guess. Vets around here are very cautious about what they prescribe.
Similiar to my experience.Always get a handful abort before lambing gets going but was noticeably more last year. Took fresh foetus to LVA and got a diagnosis there and then. No toxo found. Jabbed with alamycin and repeated 21 days later as ewes began aborting again. Be interesting to see how this year starts.......
Did you jab last year? (Sorry if I missed that)Similiar to my experience.
And impossible to quantify the real benefit last year?? Hence my jabbing BEFORE the problems arrive... I hope.
Blood test on each animal....? Maybe DEFRA will cover the cost?Personally, I would, just for this year. The vaccine is incredibly effective at stopping new infections, but some previously infected will still abort apparently.
Economically, you don’t need to save many lambs to pay for the cost of it. Ethically, you are treating established infection this year. No doubt some vets might argue with that one though, being under pressure to reduce AB use.
New flock bought in early 2021 from a less than honest Vendor! :-(Did you jab last year? (Sorry if I missed that)
Wishing you the best of luck for this lambing.New flock bought in early 2021 from a less than honest Vendor! :-(
Jabbed with AB after a +ve result for enzo on 2 lambs from the Ministry...
Vaxxed this summer... now about to AB
Thanks, and the same from me too ...Wishing you the best of luck for this lambing.
I agree, way too soon for doing scan and Hep, but might go for scan and AB after a chat with Vet... I was advised that jabbing for AB should be done fairly early on in our case.I can’t see why you wouldn’t be able too do them at the same time but your way too early with both if your just scanning…
but here’s my two pence anyways not that anyone asked…
when I had enzo about 4 years ago vet advice was jab with LA ideally 2 weeks pre-lambing or as soon as you realise you have a problem… I was the latter… we then jabbed everything that was left too lamb with LA again 20 days later and we had no more abortions but still had a lot of dopey useless lambs that didn’t even want too try and that you wished would just hurry up and die… actually think enzo is more soul destroying than toxo for that reason…
vet then said too LA 2 weeks pre lambing the following year but we didn’t because I was too busy with other things and we just vaccinated in summer and hoped and prayed and we had no abortions and lambs were thriving out of ewes too
You were lucky then those small weak useless lambs are enough too break anyone when you get like 30 of them and spent all day trying to get them going and you leave them alone for half hour and come back and they’re dead.. had about 10 in my kitchen at one pointI agree, way too soon for doing scan and Hep, but might go for scan and AB after a chat with Vet... I was advised that jabbing for AB should be done fairly early on in our case.
This still leaves time for a 2nd AB...
I have to say, that there were no useless lambs as such really, a couple who were small, but went on, probably from the 2-3 single live lamb from twins.
Went to a talk our vet's did on it , chap there had been through it in with his closed pedigree flock, closed except for the orphan lamb he'd taken off a neighbour as a favor.Can easily see a crow carting material a fair way, and something like a buzzard or kite, could pick up a small carcass easily enough and go a long way
I was in a good mood until i read that and started to think about the problems at lambing. If sheep had a 12 month gestation they would be long extinct by now.You were lucky then those small weak useless lambs are enough too break anyone when you get like 30 of them and spent all day trying to get them going and you leave them alone for half hour and come back and they’re dead.. had about 10 in my kitchen at one point
I opened my lambing shed door yesterday at 5am too 11 lambs, 1 ewe mothering the f**king lot of them… took me until lunch time too pen them all up how I thought and get them all sucking, and then the ewe that was mothering them all went and f**king lambed a set of twins they were only alone for 4 bloody hoursI was in a good mood until i read that and started to think about the problems at lambing. If sheep had a 12 month gestation they would be long extinct by now.
Easycare innit....You were lucky then those small weak useless lambs are enough too break anyone when you get like 30 of them and spent all day trying to get them going and you leave them alone for half hour and come back and they’re dead.. had about 10 in my kitchen at one point
A lot of sh!t can happen in 4 hours!I opened my lambing shed door yesterday at 5am too 11 lambs, 1 ewe mothering the f**king lot of them… took me until lunch time too pen them all up how I thought and get them all sucking, and then the ewe that was mothering them all went and f**king lambed a set of twins they were only alone for 4 bloody hours
Managed to track down my vet guruWhat does the vet say re timing of AB?
If it's ASAP, why not do 'em when scanning and do Hept at usual time?