Ergot Claims

[tullah]

Saw somewhere on here I think the ergot slides down edges of heap with all the chaff so pick out a representative sample. This is a great excuse for rejections / deductions at intake and samples could vary a lot.

 

[teslacoils]

Saw somewhere on here I think the ergot slides down edges of heap with all the chaff so pick out a representative sample. This is a great excuse for rejections / deductions at intake and samples could vary a lot.

Yes, it does. If you are filling a store with an auger etc it runs down the edges along with the chaff.

 

[Mixedupfarmer]

What you have written doesn’t make sense. I make it 2.9kg…..

Seems ok at 290g, sure you haven't picked up the FBT tender calculator?

 

[Sharpy]

Our official limits are 0.001% in feed grain and zero in food grades.

0.001% of an artic load would be 290g.

I make that 1kg per ton, or 29kg in 29 tons.

 

[MattR]

0.001% of an artic load is 290g

0.001 of an artic load is 29kg

 

[Woldgrain Storage]

So how many pieces in a typical sample?

We only record the presence or absence of ergot, based on the 5kg intake sample we take.

So far we have found ergot in 20% of all the wheat & barley intake, which is exactly half the level we found last year.

For some context, these 16 pieces weigh 1g

 

[Woldgrain Storage]

What you have written doesn’t make sense. I make it 2.9kg…..

Seems ok at 290g,

I make that 1kg per ton, or 29kg in 29 tons.

0.001% of an artic load is 290g

0.001 of an artic load is 29kg

I've just triple checked this;

1% would be 290kg
0.1% = 29kg
0.01% = 2.9kg
0.001% = 0.29kg

 

[Sharpy]

I've just triple checked this;

1% would be 290kg
0.1% = 29kg
0.01% = 2.9kg
0.001% = 0.29kg

You are correct, I was multiplying 29000 by 0.001 but that's incorrect its 0.001 of 1% so 0.00001 x 29000 kg equals 0.29 kg. Oops!

 

[farenheit]

4640 pieces of ergot in a lorry!

 

[Flat 10]

So how many pieces in a typical sample?

You are correct, I was multiplying 29000 by 0.001 but that's incorrect its 0.001 of 1% so 0.00001 x 29000 kg equals .29 kg. Oops!

I see my error Thanks

 

[Farmer-George]

How much can you find if you just crouch down at the front of the heap? Several pieces without looking too hard? And are you selling as feed which has a tolerance level or are you trying for human consumption which is zero tolerance?

I spent 20 minutes on the face of the heap this morning pulling it down gently with my hand and found 5 pieces in total. Not a lot for the time spent looking. Got my man from Cefetra coming out in the morning. We will see how much he finds.

 

[Flat 10]

I spent 20 minutes on the face of the heap this morning pulling it down gently with my hand and found 5 pieces in total. Not a lot for the time spent looking. Got my man from Cefetra coming out in the morning. We will see how much he finds.

That doesn't sound much. Last year I could find 4 or 5 pieces in less than a minute without moving. I decided to send it for feed instead of the GP3 it had been destined to be (no ergot found in any of the merchants samples) and all 6 loads went with no claim as feed.

 

[tullah]

Never seen ergot before so not up to speed with the merchants.
Just counted out what I thought was ergot from a 1kg sample.
Some may not be ergot but I picked out ergot plus doubtfuls for the picture.
Can anybody tell me from pic attached how many ergot there are there?
I need to know what I'm talking about when the merchant calls again.

 

[ajd132]

Never seen ergot before so not up to speed with the merchants.
Just counted out what I thought was ergot from a 1kg sample.
Some may not be ergot but I picked out ergot plus doubtfuls for the picture.
Can anybody tell me from pic attached how many ergot there are there?
I need to know what I'm talking about when the merchant calls again.View attachment 980487

10 at a guess

 

[Widgetone]

10 at a guess

Hmm, maybe 6 diificult to tell, but most looks like manky grain ( no offence ).
What causes that?
Likely to be a bad year for DON/ZON scores?

 

[tullah]

10 at a guess

Thanks that's confirmed my thoughts.
So have we established how many ergot to a kilo is ok for feed before any deductions?
Howmany for a reject load?

 

[tullah]

Hmm, maybe 6 diificult to tell, but most looks like manky grain ( no offence ).
What causes that?
Likely to be a bad year for DON/ZON scores?

Bushel weight 75 but few shrivelled grains there too.

 

[Blaithin]

So how many pieces in a typical sample?

A cleaned 1kg sample could maybe get away with a mouse poo sized one.

Thats…. Ridiculous.

 

[Woldgrain Storage]

Can anybody tell me from pic attached how many ergot there are there?
I need to know what I'm talking about when the merchant calls again.

I make it 7.

Ergot is hard, black on the outside, white/pale purple on the inside.

Wash your hands before you eat your dinner.

 

[teslacoils]

I've had one load in with ergot from a weedy field that had come out of grass. Second one in from a BG free field so will see how that goes. I did segregate my heaps, and I hand rogued the two long term arable ones myself.