Et tu Brute?

Done with the auld back stabbing yet?

  • Yes. The poor sods don’t deserve it..

    Votes: 1 2.7%
  • Finished? Only getting started..

    Votes: 31 83.8%
  • Everything assurance is awesome as is.

    Votes: 5 13.5%

  • Total voters
    37

Grass And Grain

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
Its 7 months and I’m still stunned how someone could call anybody with a dissenting opinion a backstabber.

It occurred to me with the recent threads it certainly appears the tide has turned and the momentum is no longer with RT/NFU.

No apologies nor acknowledgment of the use of the language either, quite it seems it’s being doubled down on.

‘We hear you, but you don’t know what you want’

I just wonder how far the revolt will have to go to effect real change, we always hear it’s better to stay within and make changes than try to do the same from the outside.

However, some must be happy with the status quo or it would have been changed long ago by now.
I suspect there is a silent majority who are happy as is for whatever reason as with the current fairly hostile mood on TFF as a barometer they are not raising their heads above the parapet to counter the argument.
I think they're hoping it will all go quiet. It's not going to go quiet. In fact, next week, with a bit of luck, it will really get going ;)
 

Wellytrack

Member
That might well happen in an open and engaging organisation but I can’t think of one in British ag right now….. apart from TFF that is.

Tbh I don’t follow much ag news outside of TFF.

I’m disappointed Guy continues to give political answers to basic RT policy questions. In saying that id like to see him engage in discourse here without getting shredded, TFF is a very good platform for discussion, the peasants get as much say as anyone else.
 

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
It wasn't backstabbing, it was the average farmer pulling the knife out of their own backs that had been slowly but surely skewering them for the last decade or 2.

The situation brings into sharp focus how the small circle of top bod's at the NFU, RT and AHDB all serve a few big business interests. They all refuse to comprehend changing a situation that serves themselves.
 

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
As the Groceries Code Adjudicator, Christine Tacon said "
  • Working between retailers and suppliers has become more efficient, for example the business practices implemented in response to inconsistencies arising as a result of drop and drive have eliminated masses of paperwork as well as reducing time wasted on challenges.
Yet as Chairman of Red Tractor she sought to introduce hundreds of extra requirements.

They are all driving at vertical integration.
Vertical integration means everyone standing on the shoulders of the poor people at the bottom. They end up carrying all the risk, expense, liabilities and responsibilities.
 

Wellytrack

Member
Well yes, but apart from that...

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Chris F

Staff Member
Media
Location
Hammerwich
Because the original backstabbing comment was inappropriate , not fitting at all, said by someone who doesn't speak for anyone other than a very small minority, dispite what he thinks.
Basically it didnt/ doesn't need further reporting.

The article was proof read and edited by Jim Mosely prior to printing - I have been told. So it was a message from Red Tractor as a whole, not a personal opinion.

That's why it should sit as an inflection point in the life of Red Tractor and should continue to be reported. Until that is, he has the good sense to apologise. But he didn't do that, Red Tractor didn't do that. They doubled down.
 

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
The article was proof read and edited by Jim Mosely prior to printing - I have been told. So it was a message from Red Tractor as a whole, not a personal opinion.

That's why it should sit as an inflection point in the life of Red Tractor and should continue to be reported. Until that is, he has the good sense to apologise. But he didn't do that, Red Tractor didn't do that. They doubled down.

Likewise, there has never been any criticism from Red Tractor over the previous Chairman's [ Baroness Neville-Rolfe] decision to vote against imports needing to meet basic UK standards.

It rather undermines their whole ethos.
Or rather shows that their ethos is only to line their own pockets.
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
The article was proof read and edited by Jim Mosely prior to printing - I have been told. So it was a message from Red Tractor as a whole, not a personal opinion.

That's why it should sit as an inflection point in the life of Red Tractor and should continue to be reported. Until that is, he has the good sense to apologise. But he didn't do that, Red Tractor didn't do that. They doubled down.
Why would any business pay anything towards that sort of thing, its obviously not right and honest so why support it.
 

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