EU desperation...


BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The European Union’s central interest in forging a free trade agreement with Britain is to agree common social and environmental standards and avoid a “race to the bottom”, the EU chief Brexit negotiator wrote in an opinion piece.
British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said on Friday there would be no alignment with EU rules under the terms of a trade deal he wants to strike with the bloc next year.

The EU’s negotiator Michel Barnier wrote in a piece on the Project Syndicate website dated Dec. 20 that the European Union would seek to make the most of the short time available.
“But like the UK, we will keep our strategic interests in mind,” Barnier wrote.

“We know that competing on social and environmental standards – rather than on skills, innovation, and quality – leads only to a race to the bottom that puts workers, consumers, and the planet on the losing side.”


You have to love this sudden focus on environmentalism. Please, someone explain what need Europe might have for this project, if we are so focused on being carbon neutral?


MOSCOW (Reuters) - The group behind Nord Stream 2 said on Saturday it aimed to complete a pipeline to boost Russian gas supplies to Europe as soon as possible, after U.S. sanctions prompted a major contractor to suspend pipe-laying activities.

U.S. President Donald Trump signed a bill on Friday that included legislation imposing sanctions on firms laying pipe for Nord Stream 2, which seeks to double gas capacity along the northern Nord Stream pipeline route to Germany.
Washington, which has been seeking to sell more of its own liquefied natural gas (LNG) to European states, has said Nord Stream 2 will make Europe too reliant on Russian supplies.
Gazprom, Russia’s state-controlled gas giant and a major backer of Nord Stream 2, already supplies more than a third of Europe’s gas needs. The company declined to comment.
 

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BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The European Union’s central interest in forging a free trade agreement with Britain is to agree common social and environmental standards and avoid a “race to the bottom”, the EU chief Brexit negotiator wrote in an opinion piece.
British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said on Friday there would be no alignment with EU rules under the terms of a trade deal he wants to strike with the bloc next year.

The EU’s negotiator Michel Barnier wrote in a piece on the Project Syndicate website dated Dec. 20 that the European Union would seek to make the most of the short time available.
“But like the UK, we will keep our strategic interests in mind,” Barnier wrote.

“We know that competing on social and environmental standards – rather than on skills, innovation, and quality – leads only to a race to the bottom that puts workers, consumers, and the planet on the losing side.”


You have to love this sudden focus on environmentalism. Please, someone explain what need Europe might have for this project, if we are so focused on being carbon neutral?


MOSCOW (Reuters) - The group behind Nord Stream 2 said on Saturday it aimed to complete a pipeline to boost Russian gas supplies to Europe as soon as possible, after U.S. sanctions prompted a major contractor to suspend pipe-laying activities.

U.S. President Donald Trump signed a bill on Friday that included legislation imposing sanctions on firms laying pipe for Nord Stream 2, which seeks to double gas capacity along the northern Nord Stream pipeline route to Germany.
Washington, which has been seeking to sell more of its own liquefied natural gas (LNG) to European states, has said Nord Stream 2 will make Europe too reliant on Russian supplies.
Gazprom, Russia’s state-controlled gas giant and a major backer of Nord Stream 2, already supplies more than a third of Europe’s gas needs. The company declined to comment.
You have read this as desperation? Shows that you don't understand the EU. Never have . Its why we are where we are.
This is a warning.
 
You have read this as desperation? Shows that you don't understand the EU. Never have . Its why we are where we are.
This is a warning.

Do you understand the EU then? It's a bastion of protectionism dressed up as a political union.

Are you trying to tell us the EU is all about workers rights and environmental or social protections? Is that why France is trailing the US in the GINI index or why Germany is still burning vast amounts of coal?
 

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We voted to escape their clutches, so why don't we just do reciprocal deals with individual countries and simply ignore Brussels and the Commission.
 

le bon paysan

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Do you understand the EU then? It's a bastion of protectionism dressed up as a political union.

Are you trying to tell us the EU is all about workers rights and environmental or social protections? Is that why France is trailing the US in the GINI index or why Germany is still burning vast amounts of coal?
I'm not trying to tell you anything Barnier is.
Why does Boris go into talks and back down? Not grasping the detail? Or deliberate path to no deal?
 
No deal then.
Any talks just window dressing ?

We are not entering the same regulatory regime. That is what the government stated and understandably so given that there are other deals to be had with many other countries around the world.

Given that the continental car industry is already on a sticky wicket you would think they would value the UK market as many German MEPs have pointed out. The UK is a valuable consumer market in anyone's eyes, nothing is going to change that any time soon. If your EU masters don't recognise that it is hardly our fault.
 

le bon paysan

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We are not entering the same regulatory regime. That is what the government stated and understandably so given that there are other deals to be had with many other countries around the world.

I await them with interest.

Given that the continental car industry is already on a sticky wicket you would think they would value the UK market as many German MEPs have pointed out. The UK is a valuable consumer market in anyone's eyes, nothing is going to change that any time soon. If your EU masters don't recognise that it is hardly our fault.

All of the car industry has problems. Where ever they may be.
I'm sure they do value the UK market. More than the UK valued the EU.
We are going to find out , probably take 10 years to stabilize.
 
I await them with interest.



All of the car industry has problems. Where ever they may be.
I'm sure they do value the UK market. More than the UK valued the EU.
We are going to find out , probably take 10 years to stabilize.

I agree 10 years at least. By which time the world car market will be a very different place, some companies will invariably fold or become a badge engineering exercise and that is just the start. For these and similar reasons the European share of the global economy will continue to shrink, and in all likelihood the UK's exports to it shall shrink also.
 

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