EU how much does it cost UK

Honest john

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Location
Fenland
I was looking at a report from EU finance, for 2015 year.

The net figure for the UK was €21,409,300,000. Or in £ 367,604,739 per week. Current exchange rate.
This takes into account uK rebate vat payments etc.

So why are the news papers not publishing this information easy the find on Mr Google.
 

rob1

Member
Location
wiltshire
so you join a club that you have to pay a very large fee to so they can sell you twice as much as they buy from you, they then get to decided the rules you play by, while the refs are unaccountable despite being a failure in their previous jobs, not sure that sounds like a good idea to me
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
Good value:)
If that is 'good' value, then how would you describe the Canadian deal?

Just to remind you, that's the deal whereby they do have everything we have in trade terms, they don't have to pay in to the EU, they do keep control of their borders and they don't surrender their sovereignty.

Why wouldn't you want the UK to have such a deal and what special reason* is there that the UK shouldn't or couldn't have such a deal?

*the answer is, of course, because it would neither punish us nor scare other EU states into staying
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
If that is 'good' value, then how would you describe the Canadian deal?

Just to remind you, that's the deal whereby they do have everything we have in trade terms, they don't have to pay in to the EU, they do keep control of their borders and they don't surrender their sovereignty.

Why wouldn't you want the UK to have such a deal and what special reason* is there that the UK shouldn't or couldn't have such a deal?

*the answer is, of course, because it would neither punish us nor scare other EU states into staying


I don't give a fig about money and see the broader picture
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
If that is 'good' value, then how would you describe the Canadian deal?

Just to remind you, that's the deal whereby they do have everything we have in trade terms, they don't have to pay in to the EU, they do keep control of their borders and they don't surrender their sovereignty.

Why wouldn't you want the UK to have such a deal and what special reason* is there that the UK shouldn't or couldn't have such a deal?

*the answer is, of course, because it would neither punish us nor scare other EU states into staying


I don't give a fig about money and see the broader picture
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
Can you enlighten us to the broader picture because I for one cannot see what it is.


An easy, instant example and a good one for you. Pasty has just this morning brought up roundup. Monsanto say it's ok, fine, hunky dory to spray wheat with roundup just before it's made into bread. Or you can spray grass with roundup and graze it 5 days after or make silage.
The eu, well french really, were just questioning this - regarding OUR health and the health of our kids. Lots of you tuuur farmers are happy just to accept what Monsanto tell you:banghead: And hope that your new uk govmt will do the same
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
An easy, instant example and a good one for you. Pasty has just this morning brought up roundup. Monsanto say it's ok, fine, hunky dory to spray wheat with roundup just before it's made into bread. Or you can spray grass with roundup and graze it 5 days after or make silage.
The eu, well french really, were just questioning this - regarding OUR health and the health of our kids. Lots of you tuuur farmers are happy just to accept what Monsanto tell you:banghead: And hope that your new uk govmt will do the same
as you say the French not the EU
next :rolleyes::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
An easy, instant example and a good one for you. Pasty has just this morning brought up roundup. Monsanto say it's ok, fine, hunky dory to spray wheat with roundup just before it's made into bread. Or you can spray grass with roundup and graze it 5 days after or make silage.
The eu, well french really, were just questioning this - regarding OUR health and the health of our kids. Lots of you tuuur farmers are happy just to accept what Monsanto tell you:banghead: And hope that your new uk govmt will do the same
Problem is that most EU countries will ignore or obfuscate any directives so they can just keep doing it. UK farmers have a habit of obeying the law, whatever it is and however much they moan. If we are talking about welfare / enviro etc. then the answer is simple. Buy British. If we are talking about economics then UK farmers usually take the pain while others carry on as normal. So buy British.

It actually sounds like Gove may be planning to make the UK 'better' than the EU in environment terms. I know that won't go down well with the chemical addicts but that would be a masterstroke. Unfortunately, I don't believe a word he says.
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
The eu doing the research.
A serious question to YOU. Would you spray off grass with roundup then graze (with livestock obviously) after 5 days?
I ask as I would of, before but wouldn't do so now.
never used roundup and most likely never will, never seen a need for it on this grass farm so I don't know, from a selfish point of view I don't really care if they do ban it, all I would ask that if they do ban it or limit its use they do it based on facts and un-biased research not hysteria
oh and I wonder if after a ban the will still let the un-licenced, un-qualified general public use it ad hock in their gardens
I don't think our fussy cows would eat it anyway but I wouldn't know
 

rob1

Member
Location
wiltshire
An easy, instant example and a good one for you. Pasty has just this morning brought up roundup. Monsanto say it's ok, fine, hunky dory to spray wheat with roundup just before it's made into bread. Or you can spray grass with roundup and graze it 5 days after or make silage.
The eu, well french really, were just questioning this - regarding OUR health and the health of our kids. Lots of you tuuur farmers are happy just to accept what Monsanto tell you:banghead: And hope that your new uk govmt will do the same
All the evidence that I have seen says its fine,and it has een admitted that SOME of those wanting it banned covered up evidence showing it was safe while promotting some dubious report saying it wasnt. The trouble is who do you believe.Its all politcal and at least the uk can make a decision rather than have a fudged 28 member one that can takes months
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
It actually sounds like Gove may be planning to make the UK 'better' than the EU in environment terms. I know that won't go down well with the chemical addicts but that would be a masterstroke. Unfortunately, I don't believe a word he says.
Hopefully we may be able to advertise and differentiate our British products more than we can now so folk can make an informed choice without getting a magnifying glass out
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
All the evidence that I have seen says its fine,and it has een admitted that SOME of those wanting it banned covered up evidence showing it was safe while promotting some dubious report saying it wasnt. The trouble is who do you believe.Its all politcal and at least the uk can make a decision rather than have a fudged 28 member one that can takes months


Well there you go. In their days, ddt was safe, aldrin was safe, benlate was safe, op sheep dip, not only safe but compulsory so just crack on then and hope the nhs gets its act together (y)
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
never used roundup and most likely never will, never seen a need for it on this grass farm so I don't know, from a selfish point of view I don't really care if they do ban it, all I would ask that if they do ban it or limit its use they do it based on facts and un-biased research not hysteria
oh and I wonder if after a ban the will still let the un-licenced, un-qualified general public use it ad hock in their gardens
I don't think our fussy cows would eat it anyway but I wouldn't know
oh and lets not have it banned here or in the EU for that matter and then import things that have had it used on because that would be rather silly, it is either safe on the food its used on or not, not safe as long as some bugger far away uses it and we eat the food, that makes no sense at all
 

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