- Location
- Hampshire
Just wondering if we are reciprocating, confiscating meat and dairy products from lorries from Europe? (Think I know the answer with this wet government!).
EU sandwich meat confiscation
- Thread starter Barleycorn
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Exfarmer
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- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
Cowcalf
Member
- Location
- North of Scotland
be fine for kids free meals
Thing is...........do we stoop to EU levels, or maintain a dignified pragmatic approach to it all ?
Hindsight
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
Crumbs wet government - drove through Brexit, porogued parliament. Must be living in a parallel universe. Now lets see tit for tat. Like it. Primary school playground politics. Ace diplomacy. Am sure Raab will adopt your tactics driven on by this continual pressure to assuage the rabid Tory Party.
- Location
- Limousin
The UK is now a third party country and has to be treated like any other that could be bringing disease into the EU. You will have no more luck with your ham sandwich at the border in the US, Australia, New Zealand etc.
ollie989898
Member
Ah yes, because the biosecurity arrangements were so stiff and well regulated when the UK was still part of the EU that a ham sandwich was totally of no threat to anyone.
If there is anyone that believes Europe has ever taken it's border controls seriously or ever will in future they must inhabit some wonderful version of reality that the rest of us do not.
If there is anyone that believes Europe has ever taken it's border controls seriously or ever will in future they must inhabit some wonderful version of reality that the rest of us do not.
And the EU is now a third party country to us now to.
- Location
- Limousin
Exactly, and the UK should be doing it already. But all this stuff was hidden and not put in place by a government not wishing to spook the public.
kfpben
Member
- Location
- Mid Hampshire
More to the point are we confiscating the vegan sandwiches!?
- Location
- Limousin
Shouldn't confiscate them, they should be forced to eat the horrible things before letting them in.
TechWise
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- Location
- South Ayrshire, Scotland
I think anyone who's tried to get into Australia will testify to that.
- Location
- Yorks
The ham probably came from Holland in the first place.
PuG
Member
- Location
- Languedoc-Roussillon
Its like the pot calling the kettle black - incredibly hypocritical view, people knew the regulations in which the UK would have to abide to when it left the common market. Those regulations protected the UK, and any other country within the EU zone, and importers would know this when buying from countries outside, with or without trade agreements. Regulations reflect the bleeding obvious and its not the fault of the regulator (or the rules themselves) if the average citizen of a said country are only now realizing the problems incurred.
Any blame it be had is squarely on the Tory Government from failing to educate there citizens on the real reality of the situation before any referendum was held. It applies to every country outside there own trading block (such as the common wealth).
Its how the world works, and to be suddenly surprised show's what warped sense people seem to have of what UK sovereignty really meant. Make your bed, lie in it.
ollie989898
Member
Dude. I couldn't care a hoot if the EU strip searched every HGV driver in the name of political purity. It makes no difference to me. I don't care about the free movement of sandwiches either. It makes no difference to me. The EU's phytosanitary arrangements are a joke and, like most of their border controls, have been lax or non-existent for decades. This is why, and for the sake of repeating myself 10,001 times, Europe has always historically had such big issues with organised crime and terrorism- their borders are porous. Also, I would like to thank the EU for their diligence when it came to crop pests and diseases, given that it was importing nursery stocks from Europe that gave the UK ash die back. I guess the next gift will be corn borer?
Exfarmer
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- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
Wehave alreadyhad corn borer in this country, several times always believe to have come from US. Thankfully it has not established here. Had it in my garden a few years back.on flight line to Lakenheath Mildenhall. It has also occurred near heathrow believe it drops out of planes when the open undercarriage.
The UK was free under EU rules to have enforced far more stringent sanitary rules if it had wanted, but always prefferred to buy things cheap.
when i was in the tree business, it was common for bare root and pot grown plants to come in from Eastern Europe, which was not allowed under UK rules. They were allowed to come from Holland but they had come straight from Romania and it was our UK HMRC who did not give a damn
PuG
Member
- Location
- Languedoc-Roussillon
Like everything, you have to be introspective when it comes to problems. The UK government chooses to blame outside parties simply to avoid being held accountable - the public have been spoon fed this, and worse lap it up. All these suddenly "vital" perceived issues that suddenly appeared in the last 5 years with the European Union, what the hell have the UK MEP's being doing in the decades prior? Not allot by the sounds of it? because people elected prats like our mate Nigel.
The UK had full control over its borders previously and in its fumbling has now completely lost it - taking back Sovereignty only achieved in halving that border control, people entering the country, before we also had influence on the exiting, and to our favor.
Pests, plant disease, crime, all of those unsavory activities the Government neglected to take action for years - to suddenly think otherwise now, or that it was related to being apart of the EU is frankly delusional.
Anyway, whats done is done - my argument is to suggest perhaps trying to take responsibility for the current new dilemmas squarely on your own shoulders (as in the people who instigated this). They never existed 17 days ago. The UK has gotten exactly what it wants, and deserves, a complete shambles and a embarrassment of how not to look after the peoples interests.
The UK had full control over its borders previously and in its fumbling has now completely lost it - taking back Sovereignty only achieved in halving that border control, people entering the country, before we also had influence on the exiting, and to our favor.
Pests, plant disease, crime, all of those unsavory activities the Government neglected to take action for years - to suddenly think otherwise now, or that it was related to being apart of the EU is frankly delusional.
Anyway, whats done is done - my argument is to suggest perhaps trying to take responsibility for the current new dilemmas squarely on your own shoulders (as in the people who instigated this). They never existed 17 days ago. The UK has gotten exactly what it wants, and deserves, a complete shambles and a embarrassment of how not to look after the peoples interests.
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betweenthelines
Member
- Location
- southwest
Seems that the French Customs are also searching truck drivers belongings for wheat based products. One guy had his packet of Digestives confiscated!
Now, that really does take the biscuit!
Now, that really does take the biscuit!