EU threatens to ban UK ag and food exports to them

[Ashtree]

When very shortly, a world class border has been erected around Kent, will the official name of the kingdom become “The United Kingdom of Great Britain, Northern Ireland and Kent”?

 

[Ncap]

Same way the UK always has. Innovating and selling stuff or services people want. There is no rule book that says the UK must be a major player in the international lamb or pork world. Other countries don't get that involved in world commodity production, they do other things. It's down to economics. You surely agree that governments have no business interfering in private enterprise or commercial marketplaces?

'innovating and selling stuff or services people want.' Like the world beating Austin Metro, perhaps. Struggling to think of anything since that example of hubris that might fall into your category.

 

[ollie989898]

'innovating and selling stuff or services people want.' Like the world beating Austin Metro, perhaps. Struggling to think of anything since that example of hubris that might fall into your category.

If you believe the UK has never had a hand in designing anything useful since the Austin Metro, then I can't help you.

Being self-deprecating toward this country seems almost like a national pastime if this place is anything to go by. I don't understand it. I often feel it grows more and more like some kind of online suicide pact with each passing day sometimes.

 

[arcobob]

If you believe the UK has never had a hand in designing anything useful since the Austin Metro, then I can't help you.

Being self-deprecating toward this country seems almost like a national pastime if this place is anything to go by. I don't understand it. I often feel it grows more and more like some kind of online suicide pact with each passing day sometimes.

Putting oneself down and belittling success is a truly British pastime. The typical Norfolk man is a prime example and it is a severe form of inferiority complex. You see them shuffling around with their snouts on the ground instead of being ambitious and holding their heads high, proud and self promoting.

 

[jendan]

If you believe the UK has never had a hand in designing anything useful since the Austin Metro, then I can't help you.

Being self-deprecating toward this country seems almost like a national pastime if this place is anything to go by. I don't understand it. I often feel it grows more and more like some kind of online suicide pact with each passing day sometimes.

Give us some examples.

 

[bobk]

France has already built the lorry parks, customs facilities and even the restaurants. Douane have increased in number, many more being trained.
Do you still think the EU will back down?

Have they I saw nothing new .

 

[bobk]

When very shortly, a world class border has been erected around Kent, will the official name of the kingdom become “The United Kingdom of Great Britain, Northern Ireland and Kent”?

Not sure why you're so cocky , if you think the the UK will have some problems where are you lot going to flog your cheap beef ...

 

[Ncap]

If you believe the UK has never had a hand in designing anything useful since the Austin Metro, then I can't help you.

Being self-deprecating toward this country seems almost like a national pastime if this place is anything to go by. I don't understand it. I often feel it grows more and more like some kind of online suicide pact with each passing day sometimes.

Don’t need any help thanks. And I’ve been critical of Britain since before I left. Three weeks after graduation
Best move I ever made. Worst move? Moving back. Solution.? Getting out again as soon as we can. I’m sure many on here would like to help that departure with a boot

 

[arcobob]

Don’t need any help thanks. And I’ve been critical of Britain since before I left. Three weeks after graduation
Best move I ever made. Worst move? Moving back. Solution.? Getting out again as soon as we can. I’m sure many on here would like to help that departure with a boot

No doubt you will continue bitching, just like the others with a grudge.

 

[robs1]

Rubbish. Rubbish. Rubbish. EU part funded projects all over EU. Massive EU investment in NI.

Did I say only ireland had run funding,when I visit my friend in Tipperary I see lots of signs, I have seen one in Cornwall and saw one in wales last year, not saying there aren't others but nowhere near the number I have seen over the years in Ireland, still at least we arent going to be coughing up.much longer

 

[ollie989898]

Give us some examples.

Grand Theft Auto. Tough to think of a product that has gone more international than that.

 

[Muck Spreader]

Have they I saw nothing new .

You need a trip to Barnard Castle then.

All been finished for over a year:

New Eurotunnel facilities:-

Brexit: Eurotunnel Hands over the New Douane-SIVEP Control Centre to the French Authorities

Regulatory News: On Thursday 4 April, Eurotunnel (Paris:GET) officially handed over buildings intended for customs, veterinary and phytosanitary inspe

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New Customs facilities as Calais:-

Four new customs inspection bays sit shuttered at the Port of Calais...

Four new customs inspection bays sit shuttered at the Port of Calais cross channel ferry terminal in Calais, France, on Monday, Oct. 7, 2019. The port of Calais on Frances northern coast has spent 6...

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New UK Dover Customs facilities as at 16 July 2020

 

[Ashtree]

Did I say only ireland had run funding,when I visit my friend in Tipperary I see lots of signs, I have seen one in Cornwall and saw one in wales last year, not saying there aren't others but nowhere near the number I have seen over the years in Ireland, still at least we arent going to be coughing up.much longer

There you go.https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7847/

 

[bobk]

You need a trip to Barnard Castle then.

All been finished for over a year:

New Eurotunnel facilities:-

Brexit: Eurotunnel Hands over the New Douane-SIVEP Control Centre to the French Authorities

Regulatory News: On Thursday 4 April, Eurotunnel (Paris:GET) officially handed over buildings intended for customs, veterinary and phytosanitary inspe

www.businesswire.com

New Customs facilities as Calais:-

Four new customs inspection bays sit shuttered at the Port of Calais...

Four new customs inspection bays sit shuttered at the Port of Calais cross channel ferry terminal in Calais, France, on Monday, Oct. 7, 2019. The port of Calais on Frances northern coast has spent 6...

www.gettyimages.dk

New UK Dover Customs facilities as at 16 July 2020

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That's for your mob

 

[Ukjay]

Getting out again as soon as we can. I’m sure many on here would like to help that departure with a boot

Probably the only thing many will agree with you on..

One way ticket...

 

[jendan]

Grand Theft Auto. Tough to think of a product that has gone more international than that.

I was thinking more along the lines of JCB,and stuff like that.

 

[stewart]

I am not interested in the size of the EU- it is not a country.

I don't care about the size of relative populations either.

WTO rules are agreed, signed and sealed by a myriad of parties, if they were useless no one would have adopted them.

Correct the EU is not a country, it is a community of Sovereign Nations, it is however a large trading block and whilst this may not concern you individually it does or at least should concern those that want to export to it.

Once again where have I said that WTO rules are useless, they are a set of rules to use in the event of no trade deal, effectively rules of last resort.

Now, for the final time. I will repeat- the UK consumer market is a big deal (I know you anti-UK sorts don't like that fact but it still stands) and it represents a very big cherry for a lot of countries looking to sell into it. The UK government has stated (again, I am getting bored of writing this) that it will offer a real-deal, free trade agreement with any and all interested parties who are up for it. This is not just for Europe, it was aimed at a far wider reach than that. Until now, a lot of countries were effectively barred from competing and selling into the UK market because European businesses had favoured terms to get in here. That will now no longer be the case because suddenly everyone has a chance to negotiate for those favourable terms, not just European countries.

Here we go again, "were so fu¢king wonderful the world will fall at our feet to deal with us" "They need us more than we need them" what a crock of sh!t!
You accuse me of being anti UK which I am most defiantly not, but when I hear these arrogant comments portraying an air of superiority I can fully understand why many are anti UK.
The UK is a big consumer market and those that have consumer goods to sell will of course be interested in a trade deal, (i.e. Japan) it will be much harder and take a lot longer to sort a deal out with the ones that count, which are those that will give the UK a positive trade balance.
For my own exports the UK is not an important or significant market, it is however useful to sell the lower grade products to, the UK buyers will not pay the extra for quality, the majority of high value products go to Asia, mainly Japan, China, Korea and Taiwan
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The fact is, the UK's mouldy cheese (as you so eloquently put it) is quite popular around the world. Even the non-mouldy stuff I have seen on the shelves in far flung places. A lot of these cheese are actually far more expensive, lb for lb than the finest steaks. The UK does have an appetite for foreign cars, that so many Japanese cars are sold here I view as a good thing given how readily the Germans and French were allowed into the place under EU rules. However, the UK builds cars too. I have seen acre after acre of the things parked at Avonmouth waiting to be put on a ship.

The UK makes some very good dairy products, I generally buy them when they are available in our local supermarket, selling niche products is ok for a small country with a small economy, the UK with its large population needs to sell volume. The UK does build cars, many of the foreign owned companies that build them are in the UK as a gateway to the European market, that may well continue time will tell.

The worm is turning and the UK will no longer be part of the EU's little club. There will be businesses who win from that outcome and there will be businesses who lose from it. Given the state of the global car industry I'd say Brexit was the least of their worries- it is highly likely that a number of French and German makers will disappear in a cloud of smoke and become a badge exercise in time, such is life unfortunately.

As one of the worlds largest trading blocks I would not class the EU as a "little club".
Do you seriously believe the German and French car makers will disappear in a cloud of smoke? Volkswagen produce about the same number of cars as Toyota at around 10 million, the total UK car production is 1.3m down from 1.7m pre the Brexit vote.

You argue tooth and nail for global trade but fail to recognise the EU is not about free trade. It's about a group of nations circling their wagons in a protectionist circle jerk and it has cost the average European citizen (and consumer) billions.

World wide free trade would be ideal, however I am a pragmatist and realise that the ideal is some way off yet, sectors of the UK would do well under world wide free trade, agriculture would not be one of them, the climate is not in agricultures favour when it comes to low cost production and a farmer based agricultural processing infrastructure is non existent.
The EU has free trade among its members along with some free trade deals around the world, has it cost the EU consumer billions? I doubt it, yes it has a protectionist element, name me a country or trading block that doesn't, even the bastion of capitalism the US of A runs along protectionist lines, quite possibly more so than the EU does.

 

[Mek]

Give us some examples.

How about “a world beating track and trace system “

 

[stewart]

When very shortly, a world class border has been erected around Kent, will the official name of the kingdom become “The United Kingdom of Great Britain, Northern Ireland and Kent”?

All those that were critical of a hard NI-EU border appear to be keeping quiet on the Kent border, the silence is deafening.

 

[arcobob]

All those that were critical of a hard NI-EU border appear to be keeping quiet on the Kent border, the silence is deafening.

Still alot of noise coming from the Bay of Plenty.