So Nige and his Russki mates were in fact Remainers. You learn something every day.
Yeah. Who needs Russia Today, when you have TFF? There’s enough play dough on here, for Putin to mould an army, with his bot farmers!
EU threatens to ban UK ag and food exports to them
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Yeah. Who needs Russia Today, when you have TFF? There’s enough play dough on here, for Putin to mould an army, with his bot farmers!
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Hitachi scrapping plans to build the plant after 2 years of waiting, is just another example of Bozza's waffling indecision making. As for wind generation, it will be fine until the day we get a serious North Sea storm. and the turbines all end up as heap on the beach. The risk has to be spread over a number of generation methods.
ollie989898
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Yes, it is very disappointing that Covid is providing cover and smokescreen for politicians on all sides of the Brexit debate. Only this morning Ed Davey, a Liberal remainer, and yesterday Starmer, a remainer, both in interviews said the public were more interested in Covid than Brexit and the end of transition. So both of these opposition Political Party leaders are playing populism by quietly ignoring the end of transition and focusing on gobbin' on about track and trace. So the Tories and Brexit crew will get throuh this next few months by default without true accountability. Hey ho. The Tories - China Virus. Maybe the Tories and Brexiters released it from Porton Down - how about that!!!!
I think we can agree Covid has impacted the global economy a bit more than Brexit. Be realistic.
Hindsight
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You can agree what you like young fella. To use such a phrase is presumptive and a popular diversionary tactic in conversation. And I am realistic. Covid is providing political leaders with a useful smokescreen. As I say the Tory Party and Brexiters could not have wished for better.
ollie989898
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It would be a useful smokescreen were it not basically affecting virtually every country in the world.
I don't believe the Conservative party nor any voter, for Brexit or otherwise wished for the covid epidemic.
Cowabunga
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It will also be used as an excuse as an alternative and in addition to blaming people who never wanted brexit in the first place, and those Europeans of course, on the brexit debacle. It won't be the Leader's fault. Oh no. No way. It will be everyone and everything else's fault.
This is all getting a bit tedious, we are where we are, the UK voted to leave the EU, we may end up worse off, we may end up better off but we will never know because we will never know how well off we would potentially have been had we voted to remain.
The country as a whole, politicians/ civil servants and citizens needs to put the result of the referendum behind us and get on with the job of running the country, before it gets run into the ground.
The country as a whole, politicians/ civil servants and citizens needs to put the result of the referendum behind us and get on with the job of running the country, before it gets run into the ground.
This is getting a bit of scorn by the usual suspects but I don't know why as it's a hell of a lot more accurate than a lot of the stuff that goes on here.
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Explain why people who just voted to maintain the status quo and a quiet life, are to blame for project fear increasingly becoming project reality?
By that, you must assume everyone focuses on short term improvements by that loaded question.
Personally i'm not aware of anyone who believes it will win win from day zero, but look to the future...
What appears to be happening, is something to be expected - is that the, in your words, people who want to avoid upsetting the status quo and continue a quiet life obviously through fear of the unknown, are now trying to cash in on the short term uncertainties in a way to try and prove something...
Fill your boots is all I can say - as it is interesting reading and showing some real insights into members personas...
this is what makes no sense at all
“The leave vote was caused by remainers since then they have tried to stop it”
how have leave voters contributed to something they tried to prevent
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The people who are going to cash in are the leading Brexiters who organised the whole shameful thing for their own personal gain.Out of the EU so they can still avoid paying billions in tax. The plebs were told it was going to be win win from day zero!
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So, Brexit has short term uncertainties. But what then are the medium to long term certainties that I can now bank on, regarding the future prosperity and unity of the UK in a post Brexit world. As yet I don't see a single thing promised to me by the Leave campaign in 2016 being fulfilled.
That has nothing to do with the quote I used so I'm not wasting time to justify something completely different to it.
Ok I'll attempt to answer that as you have used the relevant quote.
In my opinion the remain politicians alienated voters with all the scare stories, everything from what it would cost the country to world war 3. All the things they should have focussed on, the things the voters were concerned about were ignored or dismissed and it cost them the result.
I don't think trying to stop it needs any explanation as we had all sorts of tricks to try to thwart it lasting from the referendum to Boris's victory.
So because we didn’t do a good enough job of persuading people not to vote for Brexit (I.e. we lost the referendum) we are responsible for the crap that will occur because people voted for it?
That's how democracy works
Well according to that logic, turkeys NOT voting for Christmas will be responsible for Christmas happening. Deranged. And actually deceitful
Columella
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I am surprised that you are surprised of this logic.
Don't you have a wife?
Don't you have a wife?