Eu to propose to use 500 million Euro emergency fund to help farmers

robs1

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The idiots in Westminster are only a small part of the problem, it's the civil servants who influence them yet know f**k all about real life then you have all the quangos pressure groups and thick vunts like packam, these are the morons that need putting down
 

Martin Holden

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Trade
Location
Cheltenham
what is paying for the last two years furlough and all £ wasted on it
Indeed. I am minded to think many organisations claimed furlough but in-fact their business were actually unaffected in terms of sales, so how much was actually spent unnecessarily. I guess HMRC can check big companies annual returns and take a view in retrospect .
 

robs1

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Indeed. I am minded to think many organisations claimed furlough but in-fact their business were actually unaffected in terms of sales, so how much was actually spent unnecessarily. I guess HMRC can check big companies annual returns and take a view in retrospect .
Lots of small businesses had ten grand from the local council, me included have paid nearly 5 grand back in tax and NI .
 

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andybk

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Mendips Somerset
What happens to all the money we used to pay to the EU,surely it’s somewhere been spent.
yea NE and Rspb , got their eyes on a big chunk of that , plus all the advisors dealing with new schemes , (soil testing etc ) our government wont take any notice until tesco etc have a word
 

ajd132

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Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
I wouldnt mind an additional payment of 400 euros per ha to plough my grass up and plant crop on top of all that, miniscule?
A one off payment? Doesn’t sound particularly exciting, don’t you need grass for animals? I guess I could plough up some margins in this situation and probably make enough enough to buy a couple tonnes of urea.
 

ajd132

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Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
Total cap is 60+billion, these payments are nothing.
put your begging bowls away getting hung about this kind of thing cannot be healthy.
 
A one off payment? Doesn’t sound particularly exciting, don’t you need grass for animals? I guess I could plough up some margins in this situation and probably make enough enough to buy a couple tonnes of urea.
given that ive over 500 acre of grass i could plough thats £81,000, useful money, what about the 20% reduction to spanish farmers in income tax? that could add up too the extra grain produced will no doubt affect prices here, then theres various other benefits theyre adding to their already high bps, i wouldnt mind if they werent on our doorstep affecting both our input and output prices with all this extra money, these guys are ramping up production meanwhile uk support is going the opposite way, level playing field?
 

T Hectares

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Arable Farmer
Location
Berkshire
given that ive over 500 acre of grass i could plough thats £81,000, useful money, what about the 20% reduction to spanish farmers in income tax? that could add up too the extra grain produced will no doubt affect prices here, then theres various other benefits theyre adding to their already high bps, i wouldnt mind if they werent on our doorstep affecting both our input and output prices with all this extra money, these guys are ramping up production meanwhile uk support is going the opposite way, level playing field?
You’ve often posted about good yields after grass, fert savings from muck, would you really sell all your cattle plough up all your grass and then what ??
See your costs go up and yields go down in a few years or reseed and restock in a few years, have you really got the capacity to crop 500 acres extra??
Stick to what you do and don’t chase extra handouts would be my hunch of the best approach…
 
You’ve often posted about good yields after grass, fert savings from muck, would you really sell all your cattle plough up all your grass and then what ??
See your costs go up and yields go down in a few years or reseed and restock in a few years, have you really got the capacity to crop 500 acres extra??
Stick to what you do and don’t chase extra handouts would be my hunch of the best approach…
id have to do the maths but most likely id take an oppourtunity to cull hard keeping only top performers and renting/buying in some extra feedstock/broke veg, the point being though even if i only plough a few fields its 10k in my hand, this is what were competing against, english farmers will actually see payments from their government fall this year whereas all around the world its going the other way, theres no such thing as a free market economy in agriculture that some seem to believe in
 

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