EU vaccine role out.

robs1

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Saw on CNN, Pfizer boss still saying not more than 4 weeks between first and second dose and recommending third dose in 6 months to cover emerging mutations.
Did he mean a third dose of the same vaccine or a updated version ? Of course a third dose will help their profits very nicely, if it's an updated version then I can see that happening every year like the flu jab
 

le bon paysan

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Did he mean a third dose of the same vaccine or a updated version ? Of course a third dose will help their profits very nicely, if it's an updated version then I can see that happening every year like the flu jab
I took it as an updated vaccine as mutations emerged in the coming months. Also agreed with wife that we thought it would settle down as the flu jab, an annual booster covering the main threats emerging.
 

Hindsight

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Did he mean a third dose of the same vaccine or a updated version ? Of course a third dose will help their profits very nicely, if it's an updated version then I can see that happening every year like the flu jab
I took it as an updated vaccine as mutations emerged in the coming months. Also agreed with wife that we thought it would settle down as the flu jab, an annual booster covering the main threats emerging.

Nope - third dose same as previous two according to the main man. See interview. Link below.


 

le bon paysan

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Livestock Farmer
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Limousin, France
Nope - third dose same as previous two according to the main man. See interview. Link below.


Thanks for that.
Though It does say
Researchers will be examining whether having a second booster dose would offer more protection in cases of COVID-19 caused by existing and also new variants of the virus - like the one first found in South Africa
I took this to mean emerging new variants.
Time will tell.
 

robs1

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Nope - third dose same as previous two according to the main man. See interview. Link below.


Nice little profit boost then, AZ have said they will have an updated version ready by autumn, I assume that a tweaked one doesnt go through so many checks as the first one did.
 

bobk

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stafford
Most of the world is not vaccinated and will not be for years. There is gonna be a big pool of virus out in the larger world. Great fun to watch.

Listen to Hardtalk on BBC world service yesterday - did put link in another thread.
Pfizer will push their vaccine as they're making a fortune out of it . albeit short term as it'll get dropped like a brick when the J & J vaccine comes out
 
if the eu people do not use the az vaccine

the uk may find that we havea lot more vaccine to give out in april and may
so the uk could be vaccinating under 30s before june
the vaccine centres in the uk have the capacity to go a lot quicker if they had the vaccine

when the uk has completed vaccination( august if the eu keeps refusing vaccine ) we will have a lot of vaccine to give to the rest of the world

this will be a big disaster for the eu and its citizens
 

czechmate

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Mixed Farmer
if the eu people do not use the az vaccine

the uk may find that we havea lot more vaccine to give out in april and may
so the uk could be vaccinating under 30s before june
the vaccine centres in the uk have the capacity to go a lot quicker if they had the vaccine

when the uk has completed vaccination( august if the eu keeps refusing vaccine ) we will have a lot of vaccine to give to the rest of the world

this will be a big disaster for the eu and its citizens


Or maybe we’ll just do an India?👍
 

bobk

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Location
stafford
Or maybe we’ll just do an India?👍
Hope not , it's surging again there

After reporting a significant drop in the number of Covid-19 cases for months, some Indian states have seen a sharp uptick in infections in February.

In early February, physicians in Amravati district, some 700km (435 miles) from India's commercial capital, Mumbai, noticed a sudden surge in the number of people suffering from Covid-19.

Life in this cotton-growing district in the western state of Maharashtra had almost returned to normal after the first wave of infections last summer. The ICUs of the 1,600-bed state-run hospital and half-a-dozen private hospitals were nearly empty.

"But everything changed in February," says Anil Jadhav, a local journalist. "And now there's panic in the district."

Since the beginning of February, Amravati has recorded more than 10,000 cases, and there has been a similar rise in neighbouring districts. Maharashtra recorded nearly 9,000 cases on Thursday, the largest single-day spike in four months.

"People here have been not wearing masks. They have been attending unregulated mass gatherings such as marriages and campaigns for local elections.

"There is free intermingling of people, carriers are not getting isolated, and testing and tracking is low. This has led to this situation," Dr Sanjay Oak, a member of the state's Covid task force, tells the BBC.
 
Or maybe we’ll just do an India?👍
Look back at previous pandemics which relied on getting herd immunity the natural way
they lasted 3 to 4 years with many deaths overall if early waves had less deaths than average the later one had more
the pre 2000 solution

the 21 century solution is vaccination to save early death sars and Mers did not give much problem to Europe so many people are in denial both had vaccines developed

covid has had many vaccine available with in a year and history will show some that those countries that had an effective distribution have a much lower eventual deaths rate and a much lower incidence of long covid
 

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