Extase potential problems

Kws seem to be really trying to push Extase on other media platforms the moment, I’m starting to wonder words getting around and people are cancelling seed orders?

Spoke to a friend earlier and he was going to cancel 160 tonnes of it 😳. He said his had only done 3t/acre this year so planting it as his only winter wheat variety was to risky.
 

B'o'B

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Arable Farmer
Location
Rutland
Hi, the fields of Extase I am linked with were sown second week of November. No autumn aphicide applied. Would not normally get aphids invading a crop emerging early December. Did not see any visible sign of BYDV in June. A T3 fungicide of three quarter rate Tebuconazole applied.

KWS visiting today. I expect in lieu of any other reason the blame will fall on fusarium ear blight and incorrect fungicide use at T3. Blame passed nicely onto the agronomist. And then the collective can berate service agronomists for recommending to much fungicide at T3 - self preservation sometimes.

Cheers.
I'm sure I won't be the only one wondering.....

How did it go with KWS today?
 

Phil P

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Arable Farmer
Location
North West
Spoke to a friend earlier and he was going to cancel 160 tonnes of it 😳. He said his had only done 3t/acre this year so planting it as his only winter wheat variety was to risky.
Personally, I would say just having one variety is very risky business no matter what acreage it’s over!

As a side note, I was looking in the seed catalog to find something else to grow other than Extase and I see Wolverine is supposed to be high yielding and 100 BYDV resistant. Anyone grown any this time? Or is it too new!
 

clemmo

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Personally, I would say just having one variety is very risky business no matter what acreage it’s over!

As a side note, I was looking in the seed catalog to find something else to grow other than Extase and I see Wolverine is supposed to be high yielding and 100 BYDV resistant. Anyone grown any this time? Or is it too new!

wasn’t overly impressed with it in trial plots
 
Ffs 🤦🏻‍♂️ hadn’t noticed that bit! Thanks for pointing it out 👍🏼 I’ll keep looking 😂
Ffs 🤦🏻‍♂️ hadn’t noticed that bit! Thanks for pointing it out 👍🏼 I’ll keep looking 😂

To be honest we grow milling wheats but treat them as feed and that’s a simple as it comes really. Crusoe has done well for us over the years. That replaced Edgar which probably since Claire has been the best yielding wheat we’ve had for many years.
 

Phil P

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Arable Farmer
Location
North West
To be honest we grow milling wheats but treat them as feed and that’s a simple as it comes really. Crusoe has done well for us over the years. That replaced Edgar which probably since Claire has been the best yielding wheat we’ve had for many years.
We have Skyfall, Jackall, lili and Extase this year. The lili is always a good performer and generally hangs on until late in the season giving time to get the rest. The Jackall can easily do over 4t in a half decent season and I’m hoping for big things this year🤞🏻. I was looking for something to replace the Skyfall, I only really grow it for feed with the intention that if it makes milling spec it’s a bonus. However, we seem to keep getting these constant wet August’s meaning it runs the risk of sprouting and I can’t get it cut earlier enough to keep the hagberg 🙄.

Diego, Kerin and Santiago always did well here but got as couldn’t keep the rust out.
 

ajd132

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Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
Personally, I would say just having one variety is very risky business no matter what acreage it’s over!

As a side note, I was looking in the seed catalog to find something else to grow other than Extase and I see Wolverine is supposed to be high yielding and 100 BYDV resistant. Anyone grown any this time? Or is it too new!
Look at the untreated/disease ratings. It’s a good start to get bydv resistance into a variety but everything else about it is rubbish.
 

DRC

Member
Looked at my Extase today. Too wet to combine at 19%. Looks ok though . 1st wheat after grass . There’s the odd black head, but generally a nice enough sample
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DRC

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The bit in the last pick with the weeds is a wet hole that the Drains are struggling to cope due to neighbours not cleaning ditches out and running sand continually filling the wells. Destined for stewardship
 

David.

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Mixed Farmer
Location
J11 M40
Barrel had black heads all over 2 yrs ago, just like those, was a known problem apparently in the seed.
No recompense then either, you wonder if it's to thwart home savers. :rolleyes:
 

bankrupt

Member
Location
EX17/20
The great hope here with Extase was that it would put some stability into wheat yields which tend locally to fluctuate wildly from year to year due to disease.

In that sense, regardless of the outcome of the on-going KWS enquiry, this variety has been a total failure.

Shall refrain from posting the yield and quality - finished cutting - until all dried and stored, but it's not looking too good.

:censored:
 

Gong Farmer

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BASIS
Location
S E Glos
Don't think anyone's claiming Wolverine is 100% BYDV resistant. It's tolerant at best - that should mean though that, sown at a sensible time, it doesn't need spraying though some distributors were trying to persuade growers it should still get pyrethroids. :rolleyes:

As said, everything else about it is average at best. Hopefully it's the first of a line of better vars.
 

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