F**k business

[Walterp]

The Telegraph, no less, runs with a report about the UK's Foreign Secretary's response to business's concerns over the failure of his Government to enunciate a plan for the country's commercial interests.

His simple expletive obscures a complex truth - over a period of 20 years, most Brits have lost any understanding or sympathy with national wealth creation. They, like Boris, understand and worship wealth creation on a personal level, but have lost sight of the truth that no man is an island: if the country gets poorer, we all (except Boris, naturally) get poorer.

I used to pin this on the expansion of the public sector and big business, which insulates its employees from economic realities.

But that's wrong - disdain for the public good is strongest in English agriculture which, rather bafflingly, largely depends upon its being a public good for its future survival.

You see it all the time on TFF: 'fudge 'em', 'I don't give a toss', 'bring it on', 'short term pain ' form a litany of contempt for prosperity from those who (in the words of a more rounded Tory) have never had it so good.

So next time you think to yourself 'the country has gone downhill', look in the mirror for the reason.

 

[R J]

Brexit = weaker pound = better exports = national wealth creation

 

[le bon paysan]

We (farmers) all run a business and we are all being f**ked.
Have been for years!

 

[Smith31]

We (farmers) all run a business and we are all being f**ked.
Have been for years!

No we aren't, if a farm is run efficiently there is money to be made, but if farmers want all shiny kit and take on land paying silly prices, then its nobody else's fault if the sums don't add up.

Try running a haulage business then you'll appreciate how hard it is to make a living.

 

[le bon paysan]

Do a search for Farmer Bob on here

 

[Henarar]

You see it all the time on TFF: 'fudge 'em', 'I don't give a toss', 'bring it on', 'short term pain '

Really ?
can you put up some quotes ?

 

[Henarar]

Really ?
can you put up some quotes ?

I am expecting hundreds of quotes from you as "you see it all the time" so it should be easy considering the hundreds of posts put on here every day

 

[DrWazzock]

Now then.

It occurred to me quite some time ago that being paid taxpayers money for environmental schemes or even for growing nothing at all wasn't the best wealth creation scheme ever devised unless you think wealth creation arises by skimming off the taxes generated by the hardwork and profit created by other sectors of the economy.

I'm a simple bloke when in comes to economics but to my mind you need to be producing something at a profit to be doing any good for yourself and the country. The system we had did not reward this mindset : quite the opposite it rewarded doing nothing.

So I got a bit fed of the CAP which seemed to reward anything but efficient production and could see no way of changing it other than by voting for Brexit.

The fact that the EU wishes to "punish" us just because we don't subscribe to their political vision for the future is a bit sad and shows their true colours but in the end real efficiency and enterprise which is what we strive for will eventually win through, though as with any project there will be pain along the way.

So it's not a case of f**k business, but let's get back to a system that rewards hard work and enterprise rather than the ability to fill in a claim form.

 

[Turra farmer]

No we aren't, if a farm is run efficiently there is money to be made, but if farmers want all shiny kit and take on land paying silly prices, then its nobody else's fault if the sums don't add up.

Try running a haulage business then you'll appreciate how hard it is to make a living.

Ye or a construction business

 

[le bon paysan]

Try running a haulage business then you'll appreciate how hard it is to make a living.[/QUOTE]
If its tough get out, good business sense would suggest let some other fool do it.

 

[Canada Farmer]

Now then.

It occurred to me quite some time ago that being paid taxpayers money for environmental schemes or even for growing nothing at all wasn't the best wealth creation scheme ever devised unless you think wealth creation arises by skimming off the taxes generated by the hardwork and profit created by other sectors of the economy.

I'm a simple bloke when in comes to economics but to my mind you need to be producing something at a profit to be doing any good for yourself and the country. The system we had did not reward this mindset : quite the opposite it rewarded doing nothing.

So I got a bit fed of the CAP which seemed to reward anything but efficient production and could see no way of changing it other than by voting for Brexit.

The fact that the EU wishes to "punish" us just because we don't subscribe to their political vision for the future is a bit sad and shows their true colours but in the end real efficiency and enterprise which is what we strive for will eventually win through, though as with any project there will be pain along the way.

So it's not a case of f**k business, but let's get back to a system that rewards hard work and enterprise rather than the ability to fill in a claim form.

Quite reassuring to read that, as for anyone in central or local government that doesn't understand that should be given their P45 asap.

 

[turbo]

Is there such a thing as a yawning emoji to put on Wally’s post?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Try running a haulage business then you'll appreciate how hard it is to make a living.

If its tough get out, good business sense would suggest let some other fool do it.[/QUOTE]What fxxks up haulage, people undercutting and trying to mussle in on someone else's contract, the old greed word again

 

[Canada Farmer]

Is there such a thing as a yawning emoji to put on Wally’s post?

No!!!! Walt's threads/posts are nearly as exciting as people in Canada arguing over being able to buy "raw milk"!!!Ffs
Out of the bucket straight from the horizontal bulk milk tank.

 

[Henarar]

What fxxks up haulage, people undercutting and trying to mussle in on someone else's contract, the old greed word again

no that's competition
just like the lad next door going out with dads tractor for 10 quid an hour you have to put up with it or get out of the job

 

[Poorbuthappy]

The Telegraph, no less, runs with a report about the UK's Foreign Secretary's response to business's concerns over the failure of his Government to enunciate a plan for the country's commercial interests.

His simple expletive obscures a complex truth - over a period of 20 years, most Brits have lost any understanding or sympathy with national wealth creation. They, like Boris, understand and worship wealth creation on a personal level, but have lost sight of the truth that no man is an island: if the country gets poorer, we all (except Boris, naturally) get poorer.

I used to pin this on the expansion of the public sector and big business, which insulates its employees from economic realities.

But that's wrong - disdain for the public good is strongest in English agriculture which, rather bafflingly, largely depends upon its being a public good for its future survival.

You see it all the time on TFF: 'fudge 'em', 'I don't give a toss', 'bring it on', 'short term pain ' form a litany of contempt for prosperity from those who (in the words of a more rounded Tory) have never had it so good.

So next time you think to yourself 'the country has gone downhill', look in the mirror for the reason.

Funny, as I read the first half of your post I thought "Walter's going to get some likes for this one". Then it turned into another of your rants against farmers.
In a previous thread of yours you said farmers / UK ag was an irrelevance, now it's to blame for the country's demise. Which is it? Pretty amazing if a tiny minority, irrelevant sector of the country are to blame for an attitude you say purveys the whole of society, right up to the politicians.
As for the short term gain / bring it on comments, most I've seen have been in the context of "we voted brexit for the country's good not our own" (I voted remain btw) so that kind of shoots your argument in the foot too.

 

[traineefarmer]

I'm disappointed. I thought from the title this would be about farm diversification into Adult Services.

 

[Henarar]

You see it all the time on TFF: 'fudge 'em', 'I don't give a toss', 'bring it on', 'short term pain '

still waiting for all these quotes @Walterp
of to turn some hay now, want to see 100 quotes on here by lunch time or we will all know you are talking out your ar..
should be easy enough to get 100 from the last couple days or a week at the most as you see it all the time
give you something to do

 

[fgc325j]

I'm disappointed. I thought from the title this would be about farm diversification into Adult Services.

Yes - i thought he would be suggesting opening a escort agency

 

[Derrick Hughes]

no that's competition
just like the lad next door going out with dads tractor for 10 quid an hour you have to put up with it or get out of the job

more often than not they go bust or get bored with it after a few years having ruined it for everyone else