F%%kin docks

[neilo]

Anybody tried forefront in a weed wiper. I reckon it would be awesome and not expensive as blanket spraying. Of course it would probably be against the rules......

You are correct that it would be a hanging offence as there is no label recc for wipers.

I do remember someone posting on here that it was very effective though.?

 

[davidroberts30]

Anybody tried forefront in a weed wiper. I reckon it would be awesome and not expensive as blanket spraying. Of course it would probably be against the rules......

and i dont think you want it to spot spray either..

 

[livestock 1]

Do star pro at half rate then be prepared to have another go if needed. Spray them when they are 15 /20 cm across before they have too heavier stalk if possible. Surprisingly easy to kill. More worried about the rushes I’ve just sprayed with mcpa and d 4 d. How long before those bloody things look sickly?

 

[Kevtherev]

Do star pro at half rate then be prepared to have another go if needed. Spray them when they are 15 /20 cm across before they have too heavier stalk if possible. Surprisingly easy to kill. More worried about the rushes I’ve just sprayed with mcpa and d 4 d. How long before those bloody things look sickly?

How old are the rushes ?
Best results I find are top then spray the tender new re growth

 

[Pistonbroke]

Did he have many weeds in the swedes? The biggest problem with Glastir unsprayed roots is that the weeds get a year of unfettered seeding time to top up the seed bank for another 70 years.
I’m taking the view that there aren’t many herbicides that are effective in swede crops anyway, so might as well take the £200/ac from Glastir and accept the weeds.

No weeds in the swedes crop,it was once it was roughed up for grass seed

 

[rhifsaith]

You are correct that it would be a hanging offence as there is no label recc for wipers.

I do remember someone posting on here that it was very effective though.?

Probably gone now,shot from a grassy knol and fed to pigs somewhere ?

 

[Yale]

Anybody tried forefront in a weed wiper. I reckon it would be awesome and not expensive as blanket spraying. Of course it would probably be against the rules......

Couldn’t possibly comment but lets say we’ve reverted to roundup to see if it does a better job.

 

[Raider112]

Think you’ll be ok if you upgrade the knapsack to a helicopter think Asulox is available for Ariel applications

I think it's allowed for Bracken? I was once told that it was withdrawn due to something it did to spinach!!

 

[T7.wab]

Was the ragwort stood up as a stem when you sprayed?

Was grazed then cut with a mower then sprayed when young and green 2- 3 weeks later. Think the roots must be to large to have killed it out right it has taken it in. Done a great job on docks that it wasnt targeted for

 

[livestock 1]

How old are the rushes ?
Best results I find are top then spray the tender new re growth

Fairly old and strong. They were green and have turned brown looking now. Some of this land isn’t great to top but I did think that cutting them first might be a better bet

 

[neilo]

Do star pro at half rate then be prepared to have another go if needed. Spray them when they are 15 /20 cm across before they have too heavier stalk if possible. Surprisingly easy to kill. More worried about the rushes I’ve just sprayed with mcpa and d 4 d. How long before those bloody things look sickly?

When I last sprayed rushes with MCPA (I had some Polo left in the tank), they didn’t look sickly at all for about a month, then they only died back slowly. Nowhere near as dramatic as the effect on docks & thistles, but it does seem to kill the rushes properly, not just the top growth.

 

[Kevtherev]

I think it's allowed for Bracken? I was once told that it was withdrawn due to something it did to spinach!!

It’s licenced for bracken control but only sold in July august I think
(Agronomists on here will probably tell us)

 

[Al R]

A field like that wants a crop of wheat in it.

1.5acre with a bricked drain straight across the middle and both roads going to it are tight with the box. It wasn’t farmed for 15 years and was just wilderness, neighbour topped it for a few years to clean it up somewhat, that and a 1acre next door have held 14 ewes and 15 lambs from April until today.

 

[Al R]

Weed wiped this cattle grazed pp a few weeks back with glyphosate.

See the difference where father missed a strip.

Going to be a few bald patches.

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I think I’d take the reseeding bill out of my dads wages if he did that to my field!

 

[ollie989898]

1.5acre with a bricked drain straight across the middle and both roads going to it are tight with the box. It wasn’t farmed for 15 years and was just wilderness, neighbour topped it for a few years to clean it up somewhat, that and a 1acre next door have held 14 ewes and 15 lambs from April until today.

Sounds ideal place to grow wholecrop then!

 

[Al R]

Sounds ideal place to grow wholecrop then!

You won’t get a self propelled there or a rake....

 

[Y Fan Wen]

If they aren't too bad keeping them from getting any worse with a knapsack sprayer used to be ok but the modern sprays aren't as effective. Asulox was the stuff but I don't think you can get it now.

Asulox is available this year on emergency authorisation for helicopter, and was re authorised for ground vehicles at the end of June. It is totally fenced round with restrictions as you can see here;

Bracken Control Group - Asulam

Makes it impossible to use in my opinion.

 

[bobk]

If you think docks are bad , try wild oats ... them mothers are from outer space

 

[livestock 1]

If you think docks are bad , try wild oats ... them mothers are from outer space

Yes I have plenty of them too. Is there any way of getting shot of them?

 

[bobk]

Yes I have plenty of them too. Is there any way of getting shot of them?

Only for a few weeks , then they're back again.