pycoed
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- Location
- Pontarddulais, UK
You must be too young to remember what they were like when they were run by the government!!!
The last few governments we've had can't even run themselves let alone anything else
F****** Thames Water
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The last few governments we've had can't even run themselves let alone anything else
- Location
- somerset
agreed comp to renew a mains going through farm, fine, let your land agent sort it, they pay for him, however, dispite lord only knows how many maps, measurements, came back from market, they were digging a trench where they had told me they weren't, questioned it at the time, I knew the main was there, but assured not. Anyway, kicked them out, they didn't think too much of that, soon onto l/ agent he stung them, did lose a bit though, the next field is an ancient monument, when I told them, 'we don't go across a/m's unless we have to, to much hassle', so the upgraded pipe goes so far at 50mm, then goes down to limestone filled 1inch !
Harrysfergie
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Whilst I can understand the frustration of beaucratic wheel that seems to churn with most of the utilities companies there are a few out there who try make an effort. I'm in electricity industry and I recently had a job to rebuild a high voltage feeder. The team strung 3000m of wire did 56 pole changes all fitted in after harvest and to suit 4 different landowners. We moved poles so one farmer didn't have to fold up sprayer so many times and could work a particular field easier. Another the planner came out and we altered a section of line for another farmer so he could open a field up. One customer at the end of this spur complained I hadn't put his service underground. I had tried to liaise with service team but as he hadn't paid for quoted job nothing happened. I'm now getting grief from higher up as to why the service wasn't done etc, if I hadn't of helped the other person out I would never of met him! Not asking for sympathy but what I'm trying to get at Is sometimes the guy who appears unhelpful may of had the same in the past and is just trying to get the job done unfortunately they are generally a small fish in a big pond!
@ollie989898 ..... the secret is that the most useless are normally those who know the system within the organisation. They become painfully awkward and take up so much time that, eventually, they get moved up the ladder out of the way........ to their individual point of failure. ?
Goweresque
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- Location
- North Wilts
Easy, work in a monopoly industry. Customers have nowhere to go, all f*ck ups, poor decisions and idiot overpaid managers are paid for by captive consumers (or taxpayers, who are also captive). No industry where the customer can bugger off with their £££ can survive such behaviour for too long.
- Location
- Lincolnshire.
Year after year the foreign owned water companies generate large profits for their shareholders yet they continue to underinvest in their networks. The rules they are governed by are too lax. The assumption built into the system of regulation is that the owners of capital should receive a “return” on the capital owned no matter how inefficient they are. In effect the private monopolies are allowed to behave like nationalised industry with a surcharge for a “return on capital” levied on customers which is presented to foreign owners for no apparent reason. Bonkers.
Hindsight
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
not sure about that, dad could remember when they put the original water main in across our land by hand, far faster and far less mess, same when they put the electric in, putting up poles by hand in the snow, far less hassle than they do now with all the equipment they have
I have worked with and found WPD to be pretty good locally. I now know several of the local engineers and crews and this has helped when wanting some OH work done. And when they wanted some cooperation, I reciprocate.
Slightly worried at present, as STW are pondering a water pipeline across some 6-700m of the farm. No info as yet, but looking likely according to my inside contact
However, as we already have 2 main foul sewers, 2 SW sewers and one main open sewer, I am regrettably au fait with the complete rubbish that will be caused...Looking for a good Land Agent who can deal with STW properly from before they even think about what to do or where to go, and knows his/her legal onions! Any recommendations? Shropshire.
- Location
- Lincolnshire.
It’s my fault for not working hard enough, if I had done I could have bought them myself. Strangely I did used to own part of them, what a fool I am!
kiwi pom
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- Location
- canterbury NZ
As with anything, its complicated and works both ways. The people doing the job get mucked about constantly by hundreds of middle managers, so get fed up with that side of it. Then they want to crack on and need a fast answer from the landowner but they cant contact them and when they finally do they get "you'll have to speak to my land agent".
It seems to be the way these days, no one has the ability to make decisions and no one wants the responsibility in case something goes wrong. So no one cares and everything costs 10 times more than it should.
Exfarmer
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- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
it is not al the fault of the utilities when there are so many leeches crawling on the back of them.
These include the wildlife surveys for newts costing tens of thousands of pounds hundreds of years of netting across bare arable fields even forbidding the use of tunnelling when trenching was approved, yes honestly required a new survey at vast cost.
What did bats need to enter the equation for a water pipeline?
Then there is the archeologists digging by hand with tiny trowels a stretch of 30. odd metres up to 3 metres deep by 2 metres wide when it was on record that a dragline had done the same bit 60 years earlier.
But it is very galling to see work starting in a field which is literally a few days from harvest or possibly worse still land being left vacant for a couple of years due to work being imminently about to start and no compensation paid when it does not.
These include the wildlife surveys for newts costing tens of thousands of pounds hundreds of years of netting across bare arable fields even forbidding the use of tunnelling when trenching was approved, yes honestly required a new survey at vast cost.
What did bats need to enter the equation for a water pipeline?
Then there is the archeologists digging by hand with tiny trowels a stretch of 30. odd metres up to 3 metres deep by 2 metres wide when it was on record that a dragline had done the same bit 60 years earlier.
But it is very galling to see work starting in a field which is literally a few days from harvest or possibly worse still land being left vacant for a couple of years due to work being imminently about to start and no compensation paid when it does not.
I have worked with and found WPD to be pretty good locally. I now know several of the local engineers and crews and this has helped when wanting some OH work done. And when they wanted some cooperation, I reciprocate.
Slightly worried at present, as STW are pondering a water pipeline across some 6-700m of the farm. No info as yet, but looking likely according to my inside contact
Looking for a good Land Agent who can deal with STW properly from before they even think about what to do or where to go, and knows his/her legal onions! Any recommendations? Shropshire.
I don't know of anyone personally, but use this tool to find a CAAV registered valuer who can handle this kind of work. The bigger firms like Berrys, Fisher German and Carter Jonas have specialists in your area.
- The Central Association for Agricultural Valuers
www.caav.org.uk
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
Everyone is promoted to their own level of incompetence ...............
Campbell
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- Location
- Herefordshire
Have a highly tuned interview technique, failed [but handsomely] paid off from the last job, went to school with the CEO or some of his chums, have a 2.1 or a first in an unrelated subject...
I don't know of anyone personally, but use this tool to find a CAAV registered valuer who can handle this kind of work. The bigger firms like Berrys, Fisher German and Carter Jonas have specialists in your area.
- The Central Association for Agricultural Valuers
Thanks. FG are acting for the "other side" which rules them out
Never had dealings with CJ, so maybe a call if the proposals come to anything. Thanks for the pointer. I do not want a jobbing local Agent, it needs a specialist IMO.Thanks. FG are acting for the "other side" which rules them out
Mike Taylor @ Barbers
Tony Rimmer @ Rostons
Shaun Jones @ Halls
all do a lot of compulsory purchase & utilities work
Know two of them... ;-)
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