Fair price for arable rent.

d-wales

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Location
Wales
Got a neighbour who normally rent standing grass of me £50 per acre per cut. This year he still has everything that he made last year left, so has asked if he can plant barley instead.
It might suit me as I can get a autumn reseed in the ground and not have as many weeds as a spring reseed.

I was thinking same price but they also have to plant my grass seed at the end.

Does this seem fair? 🤔
 

Martyn

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Location
South west
Got a neighbour who normally rent standing grass of me £50 per acre per cut. This year he still has everything that he made last year left, so has asked if he can plant barley instead.
It might suit me as I can get a autumn reseed in the ground and not have as many weeds as a spring reseed.

I was thinking same price but they also have to plant my grass seed at the end.

Does this seem fair? 🤔
What's grass seed now £65-70 acre plus establishment costs plus your £50 for the crop surely would make it £165-180 acre which is about right.
 

Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
Got a neighbour who normally rent standing grass of me £50 per acre per cut. This year he still has everything that he made last year left, so has asked if he can plant barley instead.
It might suit me as I can get a autumn reseed in the ground and not have as many weeds as a spring reseed.

I was thinking same price but they also have to plant my grass seed at the end.

Does this seem fair? 🤔
If you took 3 cuts that's £150 acre and now he will be down to £50 ,
 
Got a neighbour who normally rent standing grass of me £50 per acre per cut. This year he still has everything that he made last year left, so has asked if he can plant barley instead.
It might suit me as I can get a autumn reseed in the ground and not have as many weeds as a spring reseed.

I was thinking same price but they also have to plant my grass seed at the end.

Does this seem fair? 🤔

How many cuts does he normally take a year?

I would suggest an 'arable' rent need not be any different. It makes no difference to you if he grows barley on it or cuts it 3 times. You will be getting the field ploughed and sprayed and what not all ready for a new reseed. I'd suggest £150/acre and leave it like that? Assumes it is reasonable ground mind that you could cut 3 times and get something decent off it.
 
When I did this with someone, I deducted the cost of the reseed which they did over 5 years rent ,

I can see why you would do this but it is a bit unfair if you are needing to reseed it anyway? The guy has to spray off, plough, work and raise a crop on it this year- no small beans given the cost of everything as it stands. On a purely commercial deal with an AD gang, yes you'd want every penny but a neighbourly arrangement why make the pips squeak? Keep him keen- might want another patch another year?
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
I can see why you would do this but it is a bit unfair if you are needing to reseed it anyway? The guy has to spray off, plough, work and raise a crop on it this year- no small beans given the cost of everything as it stands. On a purely commercial deal with an AD gang, yes you'd want every penny but a neighbourly arrangement why make the pips squeak? Keep him keen- might want another patch another year?
I was not to heavy with the rent either, he's paying same as last year this year as well , should be more really
 
I was not to heavy with the rent either, he's paying same as last year this year as well , should be more really

I would agree with that, but as I used to tell clients, the guy growing a crop is going to be paying through the nose for everything to obtain the crop- ploughing, drilling, think of the fertiliser and herbicide spend as well. And the net result will be a clean stubble which is a breeze to put grass into. You are going to 'inherit' the land in far better condition than it was originally and that improvement has cost the guy a lot of money. Just some residual chemistry and maybe some BLW SU will cost £15/acre.
 

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