Falkland war, 40 years ago.

[Exfarmer]

When I did my industrial placement at BG Exploration, in the late 90s, the chaps there had data that argued otherwise in the extreme. One consultant, from Slumberger from memory, reckoned there were Venezuelan amounts to be had around them. I think that subsequent exploration on the Orinoco Delta will almost certainly have proved him wrong by a large margin, the reserves there now being known be four times what they were then.

But the fact remains that there is an awful lot around the Falklands, probably in the low tens of billions, which would put it somewhere around the level of Qatar, or maybe even up with the US. Not all as easy to get out mind, but... extraction ability is way ahead of where it once was.

All academic of course, since we're all to be going electric and green soon.

Having held shares in an oil drilling company in the Falklands, I would beg to differ

 

[BrianV]

Curious that one of the folks who “liked” this post is also (on another thread) advocating cowardly acceptance of subjugation by a foreign aggressor.

You do talk bullsh!t, my argument has always been that if the West were not prepared to come to Ukraine's rescue & made that very plain at the outset then the Ukrainian's were on to a hiding for nothing from the very start & should have acted accordingly, if you think they did the right thing & are better off now then that is your opinion which I obviously don't agree with!

 

[Danllan]

Having held shares in an oil drilling company in the Falklands, I would beg to differ

Clearly the wrong company.

Being slightly less smart... it all depends on where they were drilling, self evidently some place are better than others. If you take a squint at sea levels from way back, you can get a fair idea as to reserves due to either shallow oceans or deltas. Around the Falklands there were lots of shallow-ocean episodes, and some deltas too - but nothing approaching the Orinoco in size.

 

[Devil's advocate]

When I did my industrial placement at BG Exploration, in the late 90s, the chaps there had data that argued otherwise in the extreme. One consultant, from Slumberger from memory, reckoned there were Venezuelan amounts to be had around them. I think that subsequent exploration on the Orinoco Delta will almost certainly have proved him wrong by a large margin, the reserves there now being known be four times what they were then.

But the fact remains that there is an awful lot around the Falklands, probably in the low tens of billions, which would put it somewhere around the level of Qatar, or maybe even up with the US. Not all as easy to get out mind, but... extraction ability is way ahead of where it once was.

All academic of course, since we're all to be going electric and green soon.

My cousin is one of the top geolgists in the UK. He always says we were defending oil not sheep farmers.

Oh and he was there drilling pre Falklands war.

He also says losing Afganistan was a disaster because of the mineral riches,

 

[Exfarmer]

There has never been any well with substantial proven reserves drilled there. Not to say there is no oil, but they have most definitely not found it yet. Many say that there was huge speculation tro drive up the share price in FOGL , sadly I got out too late

 

[Henarar]

Did anyone else watch that program on telly the other day about the Falklands war, it seems the UK nearly lost owing to poor communication and oneupmanship.
Good job the Argentinians were not better than they were or the UK forces would have looked not much better organised than Russia do now and probably lost.

 

[stewart]

The documentary was called Falklands most daring raid great watch them vulcans were amazing things sad there all grounded now

We farmed next door to Woodford where the Vulcans were built, watched them take off numerous times, great aircraft. Attached you tube link taken from farm yard.

 

[stewart]

Think it still holds the record of the longest distance bombing run Maggie sent 2 or 3 vulcan bombers air to air refuelled bombed the runways out on the island before the Argentines could even land a single plane great documentary about it

Vulcans were not equipped for air refueling at the out break of the Falklands, they flew into Woodford, got equipped with air refueling in 24 hours and flew out.

 

[Bokey]

Vulcans were not equipped for air refueling at the out break of the Falklands, they flew into Woodford, got equipped with air refueling in 24 hours and flew out.

Must of been amazing seeing them take off only ever saw em fly over a few times but there one plane you could never mistake the lads flying them were the real deal aswel if nuclear war started they knew it was to Moscow at full chat regardless of family and not knowing if there was anything to return to! Real balls

 

[ollie989898]

I recall that the CO of one of the Sea Harrier Squadrons did some calculations about the raid, the Vulcan dropped 21 x 1000lb bombs, its 7000 mile round trip required something like 12 Victor tankers to supply enough fuel. Sea Harriers launching from the carriers could each carry 2 x 1000lb bombs, 11 of them would have used less than 40,000 litres of fuel, the RAF used 5 million !!!
The RAF had spent the 1960's stating the message that they could cover the entire World from land bases and the Navy should abandon carriers, this was the RAF proving they could do it, by taking huge risks, using huge amounts of resources and achieving very little. The RAF did however contribute significantly to the fighting when their Harriers headed South to join the Navy, plus all the RAF pilots on secondment to the Fleet Air Arm who were required as the Navy had been decimated due to the RAF's lies.

The raids were a waste of time. Just an RAF stunt.

 

[ollie989898]

Must of been amazing seeing them take off only ever saw em fly over a few times but there one plane you could never mistake the lads flying them were the real deal aswel if nuclear war started they knew it was to Moscow at full chat regardless of family and not knowing if there was anything to return to! Real balls

Ah yes, a low level penetration mission into the heart of the USSR would have been a far more terrifying prospect, even before you began thinking about the fact you were intending to drop a nuclear bomb.

 

[Bokey]

My cousin is one of the top geolgists in the UK. He always says we were defending oil not sheep farmers.

Oh and he was there drilling pre Falklands war.

He also says losing Afganistan was a disaster because of the mineral riches,

My uncle built the runway on ascension Island and then worked on Falklands pre war for government contract he says oil companies down there said it was a massive oil reserve but at that time didn't have the technology to get at it

 

[ollie989898]

My uncle built the runway on ascension Island and then worked on Falklands pre war for government contract he says oil companies down there said it was a massive oil reserve but at that time didn't have the technology to get at it

I've been told by someone in the oil exploration game that there is a lot of oil in the Southern hemisphere that hasn't been drilled for yet.

 

[Danllan]

My cousin is one of the top geolgists in the UK. He always says we were defending oil not sheep farmers.

Oh and he was there drilling pre Falklands war.

He also says losing Afganistan was a disaster because of the mineral riches,

Well, I'm probably one of the bottom geologists in the UK, but I'm still competent enough to understand the data I've been shown.

There has never been any well with substantial proven reserves drilled there. Not to say there is no oil, but they have most definitely not found it yet. Many say that there was huge speculation tro drive up the share price in FOGL , sadly I got out too late

There IS oil, loads but, as I wrote, it depends where you drill... if you take deep seismic data alone, the reservoirs stand out like a bulldogs bol locks; add in cores, climate etc. and it's a given. I've been in a - admittedly very early - 3D suite with the seismics projected all around me, standing 'in' reservoirs; which had been proven by drilling.

However, there are very good strategic reasons for not playing it up or exploiting it, yet - if ever.


Edited: because it auto-corrected my choice of vocabulary.

 

[ollie989898]

My cousin is one of the top geolgists in the UK. He always says we were defending oil not sheep farmers.

Oh and he was there drilling pre Falklands war.

He also says losing Afganistan was a disaster because of the mineral riches,

There is definitely oil in the South Atlantic. At present however, it makes no sense to try and exploit it, not whilst all the production in the Northern hemisphere is going on which is much much closer to it's end users.

Afghanistan must be loaded with mineral wealth but would be a security nightmare. Pakistan or India or anywhere else must be an easier place to exploit.

 

[Muck Spreader]

We farmed next door to Woodford where the Vulcans were built, watched them take off numerous times, great aircraft. Attached you tube link taken from farm yard.

As a nipper I lived about a mile or so from the end of the runway and they used to scare me to death. I always remember we had a very large conservatory and the glass used to vibrate so much you were sure it was going to shatter. Sad its all been demolished, its now a housing estate with aircraft related street names.

 

[stewart]

Must of been amazing seeing them take off only ever saw em fly over a few times but there one plane you could never mistake the lads flying them were the real deal aswel if nuclear war started they knew it was to Moscow at full chat regardless of family and not knowing if there was anything to return to! Real balls

Saw them take off regularly, the whole milking parlour used to rattle, cows never flinched.
A local lady regularly complained about the noise they made, early one morning one of the test pilots put a Vulcan in a vertical climb over the top of her house, took her a while to find all the washing that had been on the line, she never complained again.

 

[stewart]

As a nipper I lived about a mile or so from the end of the runway and they used to scare me to death. I always remember we had a very large conservatory and the glass used to vibrate so much you were sure it was going to shatter. Sad its all been demolished, its now a housing estate with aircraft related street names.

Which end? Poynton or Dean Row?

 

[stewart]

As a nipper I lived about a mile or so from the end of the runway and they used to scare me to death. I always remember we had a very large conservatory and the glass used to vibrate so much you were sure it was going to shatter. Sad its all been demolished, its now a housing estate with aircraft related street names.

JCB looked at the site but nothing ever came of it, the site is slowly being built on with “affordable” housing, starting around £750,000

 

[Bokey]

JCB looked at the site but nothing ever came of it, the site is slowly being built on with “affordable” housing, starting around £750,000

Ye we've got some of them affordable house's near me there great but I think the price is a typo I can only assume they meant to say £75000