Family issues....keep the peace?

Overby

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South West
Don't hold your breath, developments suggest certain parts of the family are still keen to shield him ....we'll see by Friday as I'm happy to open the whole can of worms (he's been up to his sneaky tricks again this week. Tragic).
 

Overby

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South West
Apologies.....a delay on 'the chat' has been requested by those closest to Mr X.......it appears next week is now more suitable........please don't let the suspense ruin your weekend.

Just to seek opinion, and see what you all think. Please imagine the following scenario :

Mr X and Mr Y share equal ownership of a tractor, which is stored on Mr Y's drive.

Mr Y, due to changes in circumstance suggests he wants out. He offers Mr X the option of buying the whole tractor (at a fair price), or offers to buy Mr X's share, again at a fair price. Mr X refuses, says he wants nothing to change and just continues on.

Mr Y lets the situation rest for a while, then tries again. Same terms. Mr Y refuses to take the tractor as his, or let it go, he just continues on as if nothing has happened.

Mr Y, a few months later says, I still want out, but as you use the tractor, why don't you keep it on your drive, it makes more sense (obviously hoping X will come round to the idea of buying it). Mr X says no, I want to keep it on your drive, but keep using it. Mr Y explains this won't work and that X will need the tractor one day, so he needs to find a solution that works. Mr Y ignores him and continues.

Mr Y tells Mr X this situation cannot go on and he will seek advice.

In the meantime, Mr X has 2 other tractors that he owns and keeps at his house. He decides to sell both but insists he now must use the shared tractor more, but still insists it is kept on Mr Y's drive and that he can come and go with it as he pleases., and refuses to buy Mr Y out. Mr Y explains this is not an option, and warns that enough is enough. Mr X continues, convinced nobody will ever say no to him.

Eventually Mr Y has had enough (his patience with family loyalty and daft ritual has run out), and after taking legal advice (from numerous sources, all of which tell him the same thing) sells the tractor and gives Mr X his fair share, saying that is the end of it, you've had enough chances and explanation. This situation has also been going on for 30 years, which is ridiculous (tractor obviously an example, don't get hung up on time and age etc)

Mr X goes mental, this sin't fair, he's been hard done to, how can this be sprung on him, he always gets what he wants etc etc.


Thoughts on the above?

I'm genuinely interested in your thoughts and opinions, and also hope it gives a (simplified) analogy of what I've been dealing with / am dealing with.
 
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flywheel

Member
Location
wae up north
Looks like Mr X is a total nob. Why did he sell his 2 tractors & why not sell his half share to Mr y & kept one of the tractors he sold... Seems like Mr x wants some kind of control (in his mi d). To be fair to Mr Y I an see why he was pushed to sell that shared tractor & gave Mr x his share... End of petty games from Mr X, ?
 

Jrp221

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Cornwall
Apologies.....a delay on 'the chat' has been requested by those closest to Mr X.......it appears next week is now more suitable........please don't let the suspense ruin your weekend.

Just to seek opinion, and see what you all think. Please imagine the following scenario :

Mr X and Mr Y share equal ownership of a tractor, which is stored on Mr Y's drive.

Mr Y, due to changes in circumstance suggests he wants out. He offers Mr X the option of buying the whole tractor (at a fair price), or offers to buy Mr X's share, again at a fair price. Mr X refuses, says he wants nothing to change and just continues on.

Mr Y lets the situation rest for a while, then tries again. Same terms. Mr Y refuses to take the tractor as his, or let it go, he just continues on as if nothing has happened.

Mr Y, a few months later says, I still want out, but as you use the tractor, why don't you keep it on your drive, it makes more sense (obviously hoping X will come round to the idea of buying it). Mr X says no, I want to keep it on your drive, but keep using it. Mr Y explains this won't work and that X will need the tractor one day, so he needs to find a solution that works. Mr Y ignores him and continues.

Mr Y tells Mr X this situation cannot go on and he will seek advice.

In the meantime, Mr X has 2 other tractors that he owns and keeps at his house. He decides to sell both but insists he now must use the shared tractor more, but still insists it is kept on Mr Y's drive and that he can come and go with it as he pleases., and refuses to buy Mr Y out. Mr Y explains this is not an option, and warns that enough is enough. Mr X continues, convinced nobody will ever say no to him.

Eventually Mr Y has had enough (his patience with family loyalty and daft ritual has run out), and after taking legal advice (from numerous sources, all of which tell him the same thing) sells the tractor and gives Mr X his fair share, saying that is the end of it, you've had enough chances and explanation. This situation has also been going on for 30 years, which is ridiculous (tractor obviously an example, don't get hung up on time and age etc)

Mr X goes mental, this sin't fair, he's been hard done to, how can this be sprung on him, he always gets what he wants etc etc.


Thoughts on the above?

I'm genuinely interested in your thoughts and opinions, and also hope it gives a (simplified) analogy of what I've been dealing with / am dealing with.
A. X is an arse.
B. It has been dealt with more than fairly, enough options provided. No one has lost out financially.
 

Mc115reed

Member
Livestock Farmer
A. X is an arse.
B. It has been dealt with more than fairly, enough options provided. No one has lost out financially.
Mr Y has though because now he has too buy back one of his tractors because he’s realised he can’t have his cake and eat it too 😂😂
 

Overby

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South West
Looks like Mr X is a total nob. Why did he sell his 2 tractors & why not sell his half share to Mr y & kept one of the tractors he sold... Seems like Mr x wants some kind of control (in his mi d). To be fair to Mr Y I an see why he was pushed to sell that shared tractor & gave Mr x his share... End of petty games from Mr X, ?
Oh his games are being ended....don't worry
 
Apologies.....a delay on 'the chat' has been requested by those closest to Mr X.......it appears next week is now more suitable........please don't let the suspense ruin your weekend.

Just to seek opinion, and see what you all think. Please imagine the following scenario :

Mr X and Mr Y share equal ownership of a tractor, which is stored on Mr Y's drive.

Mr Y, due to changes in circumstance suggests he wants out. He offers Mr X the option of buying the whole tractor (at a fair price), or offers to buy Mr X's share, again at a fair price. Mr X refuses, says he wants nothing to change and just continues on.

Mr Y lets the situation rest for a while, then tries again. Same terms. Mr Y refuses to take the tractor as his, or let it go, he just continues on as if nothing has happened.

Mr Y, a few months later says, I still want out, but as you use the tractor, why don't you keep it on your drive, it makes more sense (obviously hoping X will come round to the idea of buying it). Mr X says no, I want to keep it on your drive, but keep using it. Mr Y explains this won't work and that X will need the tractor one day, so he needs to find a solution that works. Mr Y ignores him and continues.

Mr Y tells Mr X this situation cannot go on and he will seek advice.

In the meantime, Mr X has 2 other tractors that he owns and keeps at his house. He decides to sell both but insists he now must use the shared tractor more, but still insists it is kept on Mr Y's drive and that he can come and go with it as he pleases., and refuses to buy Mr Y out. Mr Y explains this is not an option, and warns that enough is enough. Mr X continues, convinced nobody will ever say no to him.

Eventually Mr Y has had enough (his patience with family loyalty and daft ritual has run out), and after taking legal advice (from numerous sources, all of which tell him the same thing) sells the tractor and gives Mr X his fair share, saying that is the end of it, you've had enough chances and explanation. This situation has also been going on for 30 years, which is ridiculous (tractor obviously an example, don't get hung up on time and age etc)

Mr X goes mental, this sin't fair, he's been hard done to, how can this be sprung on him, he always gets what he wants etc etc.


Thoughts on the above?

I'm genuinely interested in your thoughts and opinions, and also hope it gives a (simplified) analogy of what I've been dealing with / am dealing with.

1. I need more details as I'm writing down your saga and posting it to the editorial team at the Archers on the radio. In my storyline a knee-capping is involved but shushhhh- don't want to spoil the plot.

2. Is the tractor a Valtra? If so, you can never have too many!
 

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