family succession and planning for the future? just wondering how many of you find this a positive experience and have any tips and advice for others?

merino

New Member
Location
The North East
Why is our industry full of so many deluded, sheltered, arrogant fools?

There is a neighbour of mine who knows fine well he is leaving an absolute mess for his kids but appears not to care a jot.

These clowns who are so full of their own self importance seem unaware (or openly unaware anyway, I refuse to believe they don't know the truth deep down inside) of the fact that ;

a) nobody thinks they're being clever, in fact quite the opposite ie "have you heard what that old fool is saying now" chats down the local pub.

and b) when they do eventually pop off, all their stupid 'rules' die with them, and they leave a legacy of a total mess.

These things go against all of what apparently drives them in their everyday life ie "I'm the boss and I'm so clever".

A very, very odd situation, which occurs far to often in our industry.

I actually think a lot of it is driven by insecurity and fear of change. The farming life can be isolated, and if someone isn't shown or taught certain things, or is a stubborn personality, and / or indulged, or happy to follow what went before without question, these things self perpetuate.

But who am I to say? It just makes me sad reading how many of us are dealing with similar.
I've always wondered about that.

The quote 'All happy families are alike, but every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way' springs to mind, I suspect a sort of agricultural obverse, cause I know a few guys like that and they're exactly as you describe.
Difference is they're still under 30.

My personal theory is that abuse is to blame in a lot of these cases.

I've got no idea about child development, and I don't know very much about these people's pasts. So I've always hoped I was wrong.
 

flowerpot

Member
Why not suggest he could get the £50,000-£100,000 Retirement from the Government, unless he is one of those "I'll die with my boots on."
 

Rob91

Member
Livestock Farmer
Why not suggest he could get the £50,000-£100,000 Retirement from the Government, unless he is one of those "I'll die with my boots on."
My Mum suggested that he have £50 a week instead of us if we were in the partnership but he says that is pittance for the work he's done, so I doubt £50000 would be enough for him. They had £50,000 each for overpaying on the mortgage and he still says he's had nowt.
 

dinderleat

Member
Location
Wells
My Mum suggested that he have £50 a week instead of us if we were in the partnership but he says that is pittance for the work he's done, so I doubt £50000 would be enough for him. They had £50,000 each for overpaying on the mortgage and he still says he's had nowt.
Have you looked for another job?
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
And give away 15 years of effort and hard work on this farm? I don't want to do that, especially not to let him win.
Just be careful you don't look back in 5 years and see you have now wasted 20 years.
Plenty of tales on here where people feel they have passed the point of no return and are now unable to get out.
 

dinderleat

Member
Location
Wells
Just be careful you don't look back in 5 years and see you have now wasted 20 years.
Plenty of tales on here where people feel they have passed the point of no return and are now unable to get out.
What he said, plus legally you would be owed back pay for the last 15 years
 

Rob91

Member
Livestock Farmer
Don't be blinded by "winning"
20 years ago the farm was smaller, we've all worked to buy over 150acres extra land , my brother's invested in cows which he doesn't take any money back for and were getting a lot more milk from the same amount of cows. Not going to throw it away for the sakes of one selfish old man
 

Rob91

Member
Livestock Farmer
20 years ago the farm was smaller, we've all worked to buy over 150acres extra land , my brother's invested in cows which he doesn't take any money back for and were getting a lot more milk from the same amount of cows. Not going to throw it away for the sakes of one selfish old man
No disrespect to your comment.
 
Why is it so many farming fathers are so proud when the son is born then treat them like crap for the rest of their lives .I know sometimes it’s not easy but honestly what is the point
 

Rob91

Member
Livestock Farmer
Why is it so many farming fathers are so proud when the son is born then treat them like crap for the rest of their lives .I know sometimes it’s not easy but honestly what is the point
The realisation that they can't sell the farm and pocket millions for their retirement...
 
The realisation that they can't sell the farm and pocket millions for their retirement...
Why let your son or daughter come home to work on the (family) farm if all you want is a slave. who will keep it tidy for the sale my blood is boilin at this some people don’t deserve to be in farming
 

Rob91

Member
Livestock Farmer
Why let your son or daughter come home to work on the (family) farm if all you want is a slave. who will keep it tidy for the sale my blood is boilin at this some people don’t deserve to be in farming
the thing is, they don't really want to sell up, and selling up is a big job anyway, they just like to have the control until they drop dead. I know another farming family nearby who are the same, in their 80s and their 50+ year old sons do all the work but are still controlled by the father
 

AGCO reports sales increase of 43.5% compared to 2020 figures

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Written by Agriland Team from Agriland

The tractor manufacturer AGCO, which consists of brands such as Challenger, Fendt, GSI, Massey Ferguson and Valtra, reported its results for the second quarter ending June 30, 2021.

Net sales for the second quarter were approximately $2.9 billion, an increase of approximately 43.5% compared to the second quarter of 2020.

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Reported net income was $3.73/share for the second quarter of 2021, and adjusted...
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