Farm Assurance - again

[4course]

a while ago and reported by me somewhere in the bowels of here I conducted a survey of the non farming folks who I regularly do business and dont remember any saying they knew what rt stood for but some had seen the label . Just had another go albeit limited sample and 3 out of the 4 said thought you i.e. me had green tractors and the other younger mother of two didnt know what I was talking about, says it all

 

[Chris F]

Good news - they have strengthened the team there with 5 new employees:

https://assurance.redtractor.org.uk/contentfiles/Farmers-7090.pdf?_=637206642869583884

Wonder how much that just costs farmers?

 

[4course]

Plus, recently ive had had our farm annual insurance review and was pushed in the direction of ensuring I had plenty of cover for product liability, said I was farm assured. response was ok but now the buyers can trace back to you, I said that would happen in an nfu meeting years ago and was shouted down

 

[Agrivator]

Most folk will identify ''the little red tractor'' with children's stories.

Theme Song - Little Red Tractor

Little Red Tractor - Theme Song Lyrics. Little Red Tractor He's King of the fields He gets his job's done With Stan at the wheel He's not the biggest but he's a hero Little Red Tra

www.songlyrics.com

 

[glasshouse]

Playing devil's advocate here but haven't the farm assurance schemes increased the quality of uk farms?
The end user doesnt give a toss and it makes us less competitive and therefore less profitable but the quality of uk farming is among the best in the world possibly because of farm assurance schemes.

Being forced to keep records of everything from waste transfer to rodent control is surely a good thing? How many would keep an accurate record of either if we weren't obliged to?

The key and this is where the assurance schemes have totally failed is getting end users to recognise this and pay a premium. The fact that the assurance schemes have failed does unfortunately mean they are a negative when they could of been a huge positive.

I should add that I was part of the leaf marque scheme with ADM osr a few years ago. That was quite a bit more intensive than farm assured but was worth £15(?)/t premium. In this circumstance there was definitely value added from being part of an assurance scheme.

Hahahahahaha

 

[chipchap]

Many of us will not get inspected for farm assurance schemes this year.
Therefore the cost of running the scheme will be much less.
Therefore subscriptions will be less money next time round?

 

[glasshouse]

Many of us will not get inspected for farm assurance schemes this year.
Therefore the cost of running the scheme will be much less.
Therefore subscriptions will be less money next time round?

??

 

[Grass And Grain]

Many of us will not get inspected for farm assurance schemes this year.
Therefore the cost of running the scheme will be much less.
Therefore subscriptions will be less money next time round?

Wonder if we can ask for our money back?

Surely they can't charge us for a service that they don't provide. The inspection bodies that is.

 

[4course]

Many of us will not get inspected for farm assurance schemes this year.
Therefore the cost of running the scheme will be much less.
Therefore subscriptions will be less money next time round?

is there really a planet zog ,ho ho

 

[glasshouse]

Many of us will not get inspected for farm assurance schemes this year.
Therefore the cost of running the scheme will be much less.
Therefore subscriptions will be less money next time round?

Fair made my day when they announced no inspections this year.

 

[T C]

Good news - they have strengthened the team there with 5 new employees:

https://assurance.redtractor.org.uk/contentfiles/Farmers-7090.pdf?_=637206642869583884

Wonder how much that just costs farmers?

They need to employ a proof reader. Maybe a "Press Release Auditor"

 

[DanielBennett]

Sorry for my naivety; whilst I've been back in farming nearly 2 years now, there's a BIG gap in my experience.

So a few questions:

Who owns Red Tractor?

What is their point?

Why should anyone care?

 

[Highland Mule]

i find it hard to reconcile that formula 1 dyson et al can all of a sudden be making ventilators because we need them ,and we do so crack on. I doubt very much that the clip board warriors are stopping them other than to check the final product does its job against the sh--- of f a that we as an industry have foisted upon ourselves cos thats what we did or rather most of you ( edited to add or your forebears)

And you’d be wrong. The QA in agriculture is child’s play compared to other industries, and especially medicine.

 

[4course]

And you’d be wrong. The QA in agriculture is child’s play compared to other industries, and especially medicine.

ive not made myself clear , what i was trying to say that in times of need the clipboard warriors are removed to a greater extent ,maybe should have said jobsworths

 

[Drillman]

Good news - they have strengthened the team there with 5 new employees:

https://assurance.redtractor.org.uk/contentfiles/Farmers-7090.pdf?_=637206642869583884

Wonder how much that just costs farmers?

No mention of how they are going to benefit the folks who pay there wages I see!

 

[kiwi pom]

Sorry for my naivety; whilst I've been back in farming nearly 2 years now, there's a BIG gap in my experience.

So a few questions:

Who owns Red Tractor?

What is their point?

Why should anyone care?

RT is an assurance scheme that retailers and processors have decided to use as it saves them running one of their own.
It has nothing to do with what the public want and is all about a paper trail should something go wrong. It doesn't matter who owns it or how much money it makes, if it disappeared tomorrow (and I think it should) it would be replaced by something else because that's what the people that buy produce off farmers require.
There are endless threads about it that just go round in circles. I think most of the hatred is based on the fact that people don't like others coming on to their farm to check up on them and possibly criticise what they are doing.
Which is understandable and it appears that the quality of inspectors varies but the fact remains the customer requires it.

 

[kiwi pom]

Clipboard wasters all sitting at home watching telly on 80% salary. There's plenty of casual work available around here on farms if they need it.

I think most are self employed aren't they?
Why are they "wasters"? They just applied for a job that they didn't create.

 

[Agrivator]

I think most are self employed aren't they?
Why are they "wasters"? They just applied for a job that they didn't create.

When the MLC (meat and livestock commision) went into oblivion, Farm Assurance was deliberately ramped up to provide the redundant staff with jobs. Farms not already in the scheme were admitted without a prior inspection, just to boost the numbers. A bit like the press gangs recruiting sailors.

 

[Highland Mule]

ive not made myself clear , what i was trying to say that in times of need the clipboard warriors are removed to a greater extent ,maybe should have said jobsworths

And you’re still wrong - I’ve seen plenty of evidence that the medical and other industry QA standards are being kept as high as ever.

 

[thesilentone]

Who designed the new logo ? where is the word British ? There are no end of products on Supermarket Shelves that use the words ' Produced in the UK' when the reality is the opposite. Where is the word Quality ? Why is the Union Jack half hidden.

Would have been much better if it had said. "British Quality Guaranteed" and a big Union Jack that the buyers could clearly see.