- Location
- Mendips Somerset
and thats another £400 !! if you dont already have it
Farm assurance cost
- Thread starter Drillman
- Start date
and thats another £400 !! if you dont already have it
spin cycle
Member
- Location
- north norfolk
Sainsbury’s sourcing Spanish and Italian eggs to meet demand
The retailer said it sourced from outside the UK in order to continue its commitment to only stock cage-free eggswww.thegrocer.co.uk
sainsburys don't use red tractor.......@guysmith is now on RT payroll BTW.....is that him finished posting on here i wonder
That's right - I'm still waiting to see the non-assured cattle food! I've been sending off my wheat etc ever since this whole thing started, and frankly I'm too concerned to ask my main buyer where all the non assured produce goes, as it might be too embarassing for her to think up a lie on the spot!
DeeGee
Member
- Location
- North East Wales
Yes we do, and the small tonnage we produce sells every year to regular customers within about two months of harvest with no problems. I still believe that quality produce will always sell, and any customer would be free to come here at any reasonable time and see standing crops or grain in storage. I keep all the important records in a diary as I always have done and likewise sprays records etc in a file.
I can honestly also say that I wouldn’t need to spend any time tidying up, filling in pointless forms and rushing around making sure that everything looked alright prior to such a visit, as is often the case when an inspection is due. Farm Assurance IMO is a self perpetuating bureaucratic nonsense creating ever more jobs for the parasitic box tickers.
farmerm
Member
- Location
- Shropshire
Its a pee take if mills are sneaking a proportion of none FA into FA assured mills! How much are you selling though... If its £5/t below market price (and that's a narrow 1 buyer market so discount is probably a few quid more)..... anything more than 2 loads starts to make FA look like the better economic option.
That's my feelings on the subject, there's been huge creep on the function of the Assurance scheme since it was started, going from just inspecting the store, to a look at the whole running of your farm nowadays.
The cost of the assurance fee plus all other extra costs involved are something I'm happy to avoid.
The cost of the assurance fee plus all other extra costs involved are something I'm happy to avoid.
The “creep” has only just started
there’s a whole lot more they want to include .......
- Location
- Romney Marsh
sainsburys don't use red tractor.......@guysmith is now on RT payroll BTW.....is that him finished posting on here i wonder
That's why we buy from Sainsbury's.
I suppose Guy going from the NFU to Red Tractor is part of the course........................and that is exactly why a farm Union that represents Farmers Interests, shouldn't also have a conflict of interest by part owning the Red Tractor brand !!
As for non farm assured grain being cheaper. where can you buy it ? I reckon that if every non farm assured farm purchased cheaper non FA grain, then it would be a win win for the farmers that don't buy into the mafia ideology .
- Location
- Cirencester
It doesnt just stop at the yearly fee though does it, sprayer MOT, attending NRSO courses, rat man or training for such, slug pellet cert, fert spreader cert, waste disposal membership, meter calibrations plus all the hours and ball ache filling bloody stupid forms and bits of paper in.
But if you grow milling or malting you're shafted and they know it. I detest the scheme with a passion. Contributes nothing to our bottom line and just another leach on our backs.
But if you grow milling or malting you're shafted and they know it. I detest the scheme with a passion. Contributes nothing to our bottom line and just another leach on our backs.
fieldfarmer
Member
Yeah, if I can buy sheep and cattle, keep them on farm for 60 and 90 days should I be able to buy non assured crops store them for 90 days and sell as assured, I think your on to something now.
- Location
- Darlington
Must have been lucky,gettin the same price for my non assured wheat.NO NO NO will not tell you who my buyer is 
and it will be fully non GM unlike some of the other imported ingredients at the mill.
DeeGee
Member
- Location
- North East Wales
And on it will go, ad infinitum, with ever more stringent and ridiculous terms of compliance.
Similar in so many ways to Animal Farm. A self perpetuating gravy train with more passengers joining it at ever more frequent stops: all naturally eager to get their snouts and front trotters into the trough that is continually filled by the increasing effort, toil and expense of all the other farm animals, too obedient, dumb and stupid to realise where they are being led............
High time the locomotive power for this train was unhitched, and the overcrowded carriages allowed to grind to a halt before being shunted into a derelict siding, and left to the mercy of the elements.
Similar in so many ways to Animal Farm. A self perpetuating gravy train with more passengers joining it at ever more frequent stops: all naturally eager to get their snouts and front trotters into the trough that is continually filled by the increasing effort, toil and expense of all the other farm animals, too obedient, dumb and stupid to realise where they are being led............
High time the locomotive power for this train was unhitched, and the overcrowded carriages allowed to grind to a halt before being shunted into a derelict siding, and left to the mercy of the elements.
For the first ten years or so after assurance was introduced I got the same price as fully assured grain for mine, lately I have to put up with a £3-4 discount, but it still isn't enough to make me want to put up with the extra costs MrNoo lists above.Must have been lucky,gettin the same price for my non assured wheat.NO NO NO will not tell you who my buyer is
tullah
Member
- Location
- Linconshire
Perfectly put and just leaves me seething reading this that the whole pathetic industry just goes along with all this rubbish. Indeed there are some farmers who actually think it's a good idea. If just half of us got together and fixed a date to send an email telling them to stuff it then they would have no alternative but to shut down their offices and go on benefits. Such an easy victory too. Don't tell me it can't be done.
- Location
- Darlington
Do like I did,phone up and asked to speak to the CEO,,It will be a revelation to you.
You and inspectors don't seem to hit it off ? or am I being cynical .
I don’t have an issue with them, but consider myself as someone who pays to be a member of these schemes so the least I expect is a bit of respect when doing a visit.
they need to leave there attitude at the gates!
We just butter them up , give them a cup of tea , then tell them to fudge off .
Tried that got arrogance back, which with me don’t work nowadays.