Indeed - hence part of cross compliance etc
Not sure why we need RT to check that as well
Farm Assurance
- Thread starter colhonk
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Indeed - hence part of cross compliance etc
Not sure why we need RT to check that as well
ollie989898
Member
When BPS goes all this carp will end. Will be unenforceable.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
FA won’t end with support disappearing, it’ll probably just be taken as an excuse for RT to say they’re more important than ever.
ollie989898
Member
FA won’t end with support disappearing, it’ll probably just be taken as an excuse for RT to say they’re more important than ever.
How are they gonna enforce it?
Why you don't all collectively ring up and tell them to get stuffed I will never know.
Comply with environmental controls and food hygiene and that is your lot. Do you see car manufacturers being self regulated by quangos funded by a levy on every car sold?
Seriously, if it doesn't put money in your pocket, what is the point?
- Location
- Hereford
Yes she asked about worming the dogs and cats. We showed them the receipts for wormin tabs . Good job she didn't ask who administered them as you would never catch the cats !
Tarw Coch
Member
- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
Not sure if it’s still the case but at one time you were only required to worm tame/pet cats, as you say, most farm cats you’ll never be able to put your hand on.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
FA does put money in our pocket, or that’s what they told us when it started, and it did, briefly. Now that has changed into a penalty for non-assured produce in most (but not all sectors), or into the inability to get a contract at all, where they have the job sown up (such as dairy).
That’s why very few drop it, particularly if they have scale.
Campbell
Member
- Location
- Herefordshire
Just been reading about the Mafia and the Euro millions in subs they trouser every year on their various 'schemes'. I expect that FA inspectors are made offers they simply cannot refuse....
farmerm
Member
- Location
- Shropshire
What will be unenforceable without BPS? Any legislation the government introduces can just as easily be enforced though fines rather than BPS deductions.
FA does put money in my pocket or rather if my grain is not assured I can’t get a buyer for it. If nobody was FA then mills would have to drop the requirement, but FA have us by the balls. Firstly we don’t have a collective renewal date so a collective abandonment of FA would be challenging. There would be a penalty for those who’s renewals come first and a premium for those that stay in longest. Secondly unless we can collectively do an amazing spin job on the urban media it would turn into a PR disaster.
“Dirty, polluting British farmers refusing to cooperate with food standards inspections. Food and environmental safety at serious risk says Red Tractor chairman”
Note this farm was a late arrival to the FA party because we didn’t really have any choice in the end! It is the early adopters that should be hanging their heads in shame, you mugs led us into this trap!!!!!
You know who you are. It is time you step up and stump up the cash for a new, none profit, farmer led inspection body to replace RT with a simplier system that takes a common sense approach. You owe it to the rest of us.
Dman2
Member
- Location
- Durham, UK
- Location
- Darlington
OOOH Dear. Female
Tarw Coch
Member
- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
As far as I’m aware RT only operates within these shores and again, as far as I’m aware, the mafia have little if any interests over here.Just been reading about the Mafia and the Euro millions in subs they trouser every year on their various 'schemes'. I expect that FA inspectors are made offers they simply cannot refuse....
- Location
- Darlington
Having a Total stranger wandering around my farm,would I be in my rights to ask if I can take a photograph of her ID, car and her face?as insurane. she may be in cahoots with whom knows who and divulge information about what may (or not) be in / on my property.
Tarw Coch
Member
- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
I’m a similar vein to the above post, what rights do we have to find out what information RT hold on us?
Freedom of information requests and all that?
Freedom of information requests and all that?
Greythundercloudys
Member
I gave up f a, last year, l have really nice beltex lambs out of tex x ewes and sell everything stores and l got more for my lambs this year, l don't think if your stock is good folk will pay for it fa or not.
- Location
- DD9.
I use next door’s cats.......
Well if you're using a 3rd party contractor cat, you'll need to prove you checked their credentials, including their VC (vermin control) number and they'll have to send you a copy of their prowling records to show to the inspector.
4course
Member
- Location
- north yorks
Best of luck my thoughts and prayers are with youOOOH Dear. Female
- Location
- Warwickshire
- Location
- Romney Marsh
Farm Assurance has the appropriately initials, as it gives farmers sweet F.A for the effort and cost it involves !
The numerous answers on how to avoid rats , just proves the bull poo that we all spout just to tick the forms 'rat box'.
The numerous answers on how to avoid rats , just proves the bull poo that we all spout just to tick the forms 'rat box'.
- Location
- Mid Norfolk
Note this farm was a late arrival to the FA party because we didn’t really have any choice in the end! It is the early adopters that should be hanging their heads in shame, you mugs led us into this trap!!!!!
We were early adopters of FA through Fabbl, which became the supermarket's preferred choice for food standards compliance after a period of each of them having their own set of rules and inspectors. At the time we saw it as a good thing as it cut red tape, reduced duplicated inspections and opened more markets to us.
It was never a trap. It was simply what the market dictated. The vast majority of food in this country is sold to the public by just 4 supermarket operators and like it or not THEY are the ones who set quality standards, prices, demand, packaging and pretty much every trend in what the public buys and what our industry produces and how it produces it.
Ignore them if you wish, but please don't blame those of us who did what we could to keep customers and stay in business over the last 20+ years.