Farm assured cattle is there any point?

Drillman

Member
Mixed Farmer
We currently fatten all our cattle, the majority of which go through our local market.
Is there any point in continuing with red tractor?

market operators say there’s no difference in price. As the cattle sell on there own merits.

views please
 

Hesstondriver

Member
Location
Huntingdon
No , I don’t see any point in carrying on . There is no significant financial gain. The stock job can be hard enough, so save yourself any stress, worry and time of preparing and doing the audit and do something enjoyable with the time.
If you are confident in you own heart you are doing your stock to the best of your ability and happy to put your name to them you’ll have nothing to worry about.

a non fa killing bull topped the local market yesterday (it was mine !!)
 

Drillman

Member
Mixed Farmer
When there is a glut of cattle, the buyers want FA.

Now there is a shortage, they don't give a toss about it.


The more farmers that give up FA, the better it will be for everyone................. so cancel your protection racket direct debit @Drillman
Yes I think I will cancel it, I can’t see any reason to continue lining rt pockets without getting anything back.

i will write to them explaining that. As there unable to offer a premium for there services Im unable To continue paying them.
 

Ashtree

Member
Guys, I encourage, even implore you all to toss FA over the side. Once enough of you have done so and hopefully adopted the daft “brown tractor” idea floated elsewhere on TFF, the last vestiges of trust in your product will disappear in the consumers eyes. Especially since Paddy’s slick food marketing machine Bord Bia, will fill the vacuum with mouthwatering promotions and advertising campaigns for Irish grass fed beef. Chelsea Mom’s will kill each other in Sainsbury’s to clean out the Irish beef, and the Kerrygold dairy shelf…..
 

Whitepeak

Member
Livestock Farmer
Never been FA for beef. We are always in the top 10% of prices in our local market for finished bulls, clean and culls. So I can't see the point, if we were 10/20p off the trade for equal quality then yes I'd consider it, but as it stands no.
It summed the job up a few years ago when we tried booking culls into an abbatoir, who refused them due to not being FA. A few weeks later the same abbatoir was buying our clean cattle out of the auction ring!
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Never been FA for beef. We are always in the top 10% of prices in our local market for finished bulls, clean and culls. So I can't see the point, if we were 10/20p off the trade for equal quality then yes I'd consider it, but as it stands no.
It summed the job up a few years ago when we tried booking culls into an abbatoir, who refused them due to not being FA. A few weeks later the same abbatoir was buying our clean cattle out of the auction ring!
We have only ever put one finished animal in to market and it topped, never been FA and don't intend to
 

topground

Member
Location
North Somerset.
Guys, I encourage, even implore you all to toss FA over the side. Once enough of you have done so and hopefully adopted the daft “brown tractor” idea floated elsewhere on TFF, the last vestiges of trust in your product will disappear in the consumers eyes. Especially since Paddy’s slick food marketing machine Bord Bia, will fill the vacuum with mouthwatering promotions and advertising campaigns for Irish grass fed beef. Chelsea Mom’s will kill each other in Sainsbury’s to clean out the Irish beef, and the Kerrygold dairy shelf…..
Not sure the Irish have always sold ‘Irish beef’ that was actually only produced in Ireland or in some cases was actually beef. What is the reason why UK beef prices have risen to levels not seen since the ‘Horsegate’ scandal, anything to do with Brexit and obstacles to the movement of meat from Eastern Europe into Eire?
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
We currently fatten all our cattle, the majority of which go through our local market.
Is there any point in continuing with red tractor?

market operators say there’s no difference in price. As the cattle sell on there own merits.

views please
When, not if trade falls in the future they will have your pants down for non FA fat cattle. I dont understand why people want to do away with FA now when its likely to help keep cheap imports out. It would have been better not being FA until now but i think its more important than ever now. Passing the livestock FA is a piece of p##s so i dont see the problem.
 

Hindsight

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
Guys, I encourage, even implore you all to toss FA over the side. Once enough of you have done so and hopefully adopted the daft “brown tractor” idea floated elsewhere on TFF, the last vestiges of trust in your product will disappear in the consumers eyes. Especially since Paddy’s slick food marketing machine Bord Bia, will fill the vacuum with mouthwatering promotions and advertising campaigns for Irish grass fed beef. Chelsea Mom’s will kill each other in Sainsbury’s to clean out the Irish beef, and the Kerrygold dairy shelf…..

ASDA doing the job for you Paddy's anyway. Our local ASDA (Grantham) on Tuesday evening was (as usual) in the main Irish beef except the single wrapped steaks which had a union jack.
 

Tim G

Member
When I originally joined (2 years ago) the local difference was about £100 a head. Only one buyer in our local market for the non - FA wouldn't bid against himself on all the accounts he bought for (up to 8 allegedly some weeks)
I get annoyed that the market let this happen and its one reason we stopped sending animals there.
Still not FA though.
 

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