Farm overheads (fixed costs) per acre for a non-dairy livestock and arable enterprise?

Farm overheads (fixed costs) per acre for a non-dairy livestock and arable enterprise?

  • £200-249 an acre

  • £250-299 an acre

  • £300-349 an acre

  • £350-399 an acre

  • £400-449 an acre

  • £450-499 an acre

  • £500-549 an acre

  • £550-599 an acre

  • £600-649 an acre

  • £650-699 an acre

  • £700-749 an acre

  • £750-799 an acre

  • £800-849 an acre

  • £850-899 an acre


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You might, but most of those aren’t fixed costs. true fixed costs are things that apply wether the business is trading or not. Most of what you mention are variable costs (fuel will vary greatly with cultivation being high, from instance, compared to dog and stick sheep.

True fixed costs run at under £10/acre for some farm types.
Fair comment.

Yes i understand everyone has their own way of doing it, but i can see what you mean exactly about the fuel example.

Our farm is a lowland farm so would incur cultivation costs and we wouldn't be dog and stick farming.
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
Fair comment.

Yes i understand everyone has their own way of doing it, but i can see what you mean exactly about the fuel example.

Our farm is a lowland farm so would incur cultivation costs and we wouldn't be dog and stick farming.

Why not, if it’s more profitable? Don’t discount anything until you’ve worked it through (it won’t be, but the principle should apply).
 

Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
Burn your cheque book
If you go out of milk sit in an arm chair and have a think for a few years before doing anything
A few pointers
Sheep are very hard work , if you think dairy is hard you been on a holiday
Returns on Beef Cows
I know your dairy calf sales ain't what they were, but thats about where it was at , pocket money
 
at 31 years old if your going to keep a cow you might as well milk it.
I wish i could but i can't compete with my neighbour when he's getting 30p plus for his milk on an aligned milk contract and we're only getting 24p on a non-aligned milk contract for ours... the milk market is a very strange market now, and very broken
 

le bon paysan

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
Fair comment.

Yes i understand everyone has their own way of doing it, but i can see what you mean exactly about the fuel example.

Our farm is a lowland farm so would incur cultivation costs and we wouldn't be dog and stick farming.
Well, if I was your age, I'd be straight out now. Rent the farm out for a few years , maybe to your neighbour. This will give you time to see what comes out of Brexit. Use this time to have a look at all your options.
 

DaveGrohl

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Cumbria
Fixed costs are a moveable feast. As are variable costs. Our farm accounts from the accountant don't resemble anything like they did 20 years ago, they're completely baffling now the way everything's been moved around. Thankfully I only look at them once a year when I sign them. I've been using my own spreadsheets since I was 20 which have barely changed and provide many times more usable info, and they cover the year ahead not ancient history.

You will find a huge reduction in electricity charges, I know we did.
 

2tractors

Member
Location
Cornwall
Each farm is different you need to do a partial budget, working out income lost, costs saved v new income and any additional costs to assess the impact on overall profitability. Note most non dairy farms depend to a large extent on BPS which will be gone by 2028.
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
I am not sure I believe in the concept of fixed costs when such fundamental changes are a foot! Even rent or mortgage costs might be considered variable given the sale of dairy assets might mean you give up a block of rented ground or have cash to pay down borrowings...
 

Repeat

Member
Location
Cumbria
I wish i could but i can't compete with my neighbour when he's getting 30p plus for his milk on an aligned milk contract and we're only getting 24p on a non-aligned milk contract for ours... the milk market is a very strange market now, and very broken
I wouldn't spend to much time thinking about your neighbour and what his milk price is, it makes no difference to your business .
If you want to stay in milk you need to produce a litre for less than your milk price. Would your fixed costs be any less running a two enterprise livestock and arable farm on your acreage than a simple all dairy unit ?
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
Burn your cheque book
If you go out of milk sit in an arm chair and have a think for a few years before doing anything
A few pointers
Sheep are very hard work , if you think dairy is hard you been on a holiday
Returns on Beef Cows
I know your dairy calf sales ain't what they were, but thats about where it was at , pocket money

sheep are hard work?
How'd yer get to that state of affairs?
Clik the lambs to stop the wigglies, worm the lambs once or twice, dip/fluke the ewes annually, run em extensively and keep to 'easy' breeds.

A very good tip I was given decades ago...shoot the ugliest sheep on the property once a month!
(well....send it as a cull then, if you really must)
 

An Gof

Member
Location
Cornwall
sheep are hard work?
How'd yer get to that state of affairs?
Clik the lambs to stop the wigglies, worm the lambs once or twice, dip/fluke the ewes annually, run em extensively and keep to 'easy' breeds.

A very good tip I was given decades ago...shoot the ugliest sheep on the property once a month!
(well....send it as a cull then, if you really must)

Your posts always bring a smile to my face. Can’t beat a down to earth chap off the moor. 👍
 

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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