Farmdeals

[hendrebc]

But if you don't support it then nothing will ever change and we are trying to change things.

definitely worth supporting that things need a bloody good shake up

 

[Tarw Coch]

Same here - a lot depends on whether you get a driver or just a steerer

I tend to find drivers who regularly deliver to farms aren’t a problem.
Drivers who are used to delivering to industrial estates tend to be more of a problem, and even had a driver of a 4wheeler box lorry moaning that he shouldn’t be sent to places like this yet artics get in with no problem according to some drivers, who say they go to plenty of places worse.

 

[Steevo]

i bought 10,000 L via FarmDeals this morning - 54.9p - cheaper than any of the companies i rang

if you want better prices join the group as when it becomes the uks biggest we might just get away from this crazy “buy retail sell wholesale” attitude this industry has

strength here is in numbers - even if you are not ready to buy yet becoming a member gives us the scale and strength to engage with manufacturers to get the better prices that you will want to buy at in the future ……. chicken and egg as you say !!!

We ate trying ! it’s free ! you have nothing to loose by supporting it …… you never know it might just work and those that supported it from the start will not be forgotten !!!

I already am and do. Been with it from the start.

 

[Clive]

Fram Farmers tried to join today

Must br good

 

[spin cycle]

I was so disappointed as I have not yet had a message from some Russian girl called Emily who lives in the USA and needs to chat.

havn't read the thread so aplogies if covered....BUT are 'chat services' part of farm deals ......also 'blue badges and pigs'

asking for friend obviously

 

[Christoph1945]

havn't read the thread so aplogies if covered....BUT are 'chat services' part of farm deals ......also 'blue badges and pigs'

asking for friend obviously

Blue badgers? Only if TB free!

 

[Christoph1945]

I know that it's pretty late in the morning, by farming standards, but having just stumbled out of my townie bed my thinking cap is still rather a-skew. Isn't there, perhaps, a danger that 'Farmdeals' will grow to rob 'RedTractor' of fuel (farmers that is) ?

Sorry if I'm making no sense;
perhaps I should go back to my townie bed!

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

Fram Farmers tried to join today

Who is allowed to join and who isnt?

Anyone who adds to sales volume is helping with leverage?

 

[Chris F]

Who is allowed to join and who isnt?

Anyone who adds to sales volume is helping with leverage?

All farmers in the UK can join. That is the point, its a buying group for all, I speak to lots of groups and many aren't interested in farms under 1000 acres. They are successful as the cherry-pick the big farms and those farms get great prices. But they aren't interested in helping smaller farms as its too much hassle for them. They don't want the admin. They can't cope with the admin.

 

[steveR]

I tend to find drivers who regularly deliver to farms aren’t a problem.
Drivers who are used to delivering to industrial estates tend to be more of a problem, and even had a driver of a 4wheeler box lorry moaning that he shouldn’t be sent to places like this yet artics get in with no problem according to some drivers, who say they go to plenty of places worse.

Aha him, he is still about then....

 

[Clive]

Who is allowed to join and who isnt?

Anyone who adds to sales volume is helping with leverage?

it’s for farmers, the idea is to use the scale of membership of TFF to ultimately get better deals than any traditional buying group could without the high admin and membership costs they have

UK farmers for now BUT no reason it couldn’t be international one day ! Already had some interesting conversations with some big international players ! ….. we intend to do this on a scale snd level of efficiency not seen before in the uk ultimately

With BPS going things are going to change rapidly in agriculture i think

Farmers pay retail / sell wholesale because we are so divided, let’s use technology and the network TFF has created within the forum to have a go at changing that !!

 

[neilo]

All farmers in the UK can join. That is the point, its a buying group for all, I speak to lots of groups and many aren't interested in farms under 1000 acres. They are successful as the cherry-pick the big farms and those farms get great prices. But they aren't interested in helping smaller farms as its too much hassle for them. They don't want the admin. They can't cope with the admin.

Surely not many ‘small’ farmers will be interested in pallet deals on glyphosate?

 

[Clive]

Surely not many ‘small’ farmers will surely be interested in pallet deals on glyphosate?

won’t always be pallet deals ….. things have to start somewhere however

no arable farmers will be interested in the feeds and minerals on there right now but hopefully eventually there will be something for everyone

As Chris has said sone buying groups wont even let you join unless you are “big” farm - FarmDeals wants farmers of all types and sizes

 

[Derrick Hughes]

won’t always be pallet deals ….. things have to start somewhere however

no arable farmers will be interested in the feeds and minerals on there right now but hopefully eventually there will be something for everyone

As Chris has said sone buying gtoups wont even let you join unless you are “big” farm - FarmDeals wants farmers of all types and sizes

Most of the companies on there sell direct do they not?

 

[Clive]

Most of the companies on there sell direct do they not?

at the moment most do yes, maybe not always at the same prices however plus there is a connivance in not having to call around to find the best prices today on products like fuel

as it grows there will be many more direct deals - we had a deal on grain dryer fuel 2 weeks ago directly from the wholesaler……. it was over 20p/L cheaper than the best retailer at the time !!!! you won’t get those kind of deals directly but was dependent upon grouping together to take a full tanker load

Working together is the key to improving on farm prices

 

[Woldmarsh Producers]

All farmers in the UK can join. That is the point, its a buying group for all, I speak to lots of groups and many aren't interested in farms under 1000 acres. They are successful as the cherry-pick the big farms and those farms get great prices. But they aren't interested in helping smaller farms as its too much hassle for them. They don't want the admin. They can't cope with the admin.

Woldmarsh has a very robust application process which is not based upon the size of a farm, it is about having like minded members who support and value the co-operative ethos. In terms of administration, the use of technology means this is efficient, accurate and cost effective. To cut paper waste and remain efficient, we encourage suppliers to send invoices electronically which are imported into the systems; meaning that manual entry is almost extinct. Members can access their statements online and download invoices as required. Members value the "back office" function especially those who may not have the time or resources to spend too long dealing with admin issues. Therefore, we are happy to take that admin burden away so that our members can get on with the thing they do best. (posted by Heather Claridge, Chief Operating Officer)

 

[Chris F]

Woldmarsh has a very robust application process which is not based upon the size of a farm, it is about having like minded members who support and value the co-operative ethos. In terms of administration, the use of technology means this is efficient, accurate and cost effective. To cut paper waste and remain efficient, we encourage suppliers to send invoices electronically which are imported into the systems; meaning that manual entry is almost extinct. Members can access their statements online and download invoices as required. Members value the "back office" function especially those who may not have the time or resources to spend too long dealing with admin issues. Therefore, we are happy to take that admin burden away so that our members can get on with the thing they do best. (posted by Heather Claridge, Chief Operating Officer)

How much does it cost to be a member Heather?

 

[Clive]

Woldmarsh has a very robust application process which is not based upon the size of a farm, it is about having like minded members who support and value the co-operative ethos. In terms of administration, the use of technology means this is efficient, accurate and cost effective. To cut paper waste and remain efficient, we encourage suppliers to send invoices electronically which are imported into the systems; meaning that manual entry is almost extinct. Members can access their statements online and download invoices as required. Members value the "back office" function especially those who may not have the time or resources to spend too long dealing with admin issues. Therefore, we are happy to take that admin burden away so that our members can get on with the thing they do best. (posted by Heather Claridge, Chief Operating Officer)

it all comes at a cost though doesn't it, and still operates via a number of middlemen layers, UK ag is simply not going to be in a position to afford any fat on the bone going forward in our unsubsidized future. Buying groups need scale, way beyond that of even the largest UK ag buying groups right now ................... scale brings direct access to supply

Digital is the way all buying (and selling) is going - just ask the high street! people and premises are expensive, there is no "back office" to a truly digital buying group but that doesn't mean no customer service either, that's 24/7/365 in any user's own hands to access. Eventually, we plan for FarmDeals to work with TFF's price comparison service Farm Compare and even integrate into farm management software. Focus is on the app right now that works well for fuel and will have other product categories added in the next couple of weeks

existing buying groups need to start working together to get that scale if they are to remain relevant IMO - FarmDeals is open to discussing collaborations that benefit farmers with anyone

 

[Tarw Coch]

Aha him, he is still about then....

That’s probably 10 years or so ago, so not sure if he’s still about or not. Can’t remember who he was delivering for but he hasn’t been back since..............maybe we’ve been blacklisted

 

[Derrick Hughes]

at the moment most do yes, maybe not always at the same prices however plus there is a connivance in not having to call around to find the best prices today on products like fuel

as it grows there will be many more direct deals - we had a deal on grain dryer fuel 2 weeks ago directly from the wholesaler……. it was over 20p/L cheaper than the best retailer at the time !!!! you won’t get those kind of deals directly

Working together is the key to improving on farm

it all comes at a cost though doesn't it, and still operates via a number of middlemen layers, UK ag is simply not going to be in a position to afford any fat on the bone going forward in our unsubsidized future. Buying groups need scale, way beyond that of even the largest UK ag buying groups right now ................... scale brings direct access to supply

Digital is the way all buying (and selling) is going - just ask the high street! people and premises are expensive, there is no "back office" to a truly digital buying group but that doesn't mean no customer service either, that's 24/7/365 in any user's own hands to access. Eventually, we plan for FarmDeals to work with TFF's price comparison service Farm Compare and even integrate into farm management software. Focus is on the app right now that works well for fuel and will have other product categories added in the next couple of weeks

existing buying groups need to start working together to get that scale if they are to remain relevant IMO - FarmDeals is open to discussing collaborations that benefit farmers with anyone

But you are a middle man just like they are