farmer or environmentalist or farmer and environmentalist

[yellow belly]

read a piece about James Rebanks he calls himself a farmer and environmentalist

he was on a defa committee but resigned as the environmentalist said there were to many farmers

every farmer who has an area of land that is not farmed for food but farmed for the environment should be designated as an environmentalist and farmer

many of us farmers also farm with the environment

so we should identify as and environmentalist farmer

mixed farmers woodland farmers notill farmers mintill farmers no insecticide farmers
all environmental farmers

 

[yoki]

I wouldn't want to call myself an "environmentalist".

Every "environmentalist" I've met up until now has been a self-serving tw*t.

*edit* - that's not to say however that I don't get you point because I do, and it's entirely valid.

 

[Nearly]

Live as though you'll die tomorrow.
Farm as though you'll live forever.
Preach 'enviromentalism' as though you're an annoying vegan?

 

[Yale]

To be a farmer you have to be an environmentalist. Farming works best alongside nature rather than trying to force things. A lot of what has depleted our soils has been chemical companies brain washing farmers to use products which are unsustainable long term. Government have to make a real choice about the environment. Food produced cheaply through processes which damage the environment or food produced in a sustainable manner.

It all comes at a cost.

 

[Skimmer]

I attend quite a few meetings with the environmentalists, most are pretty reasonable people many very clever but most badly educated about the environment, they tend to be authority's on it, but there field of knowledge is very confined to certain aspects, as long as their specific area is up to standard any problems it causes for others doesn't matter that can often include
other wildlife.

 

[delilah]

No idea what constitutes an 'environmentalist', and more generally have a suspicion of anyone whose job title ends in 'ist'. I would identify as an 'environmental campaigner' and 'farmer', in that order.

 

[SilliamWhale]

A lot of famous environmentalists seem to be what I call desk based environmentalists. ie they don't actually do anything practical like hedgelaying or planting cover etc. They may be good at talking big idea stuff or picking up binoculars to catagoerise something but I doubt they have to carry the can on making thing work at a practical level.

Iolo Williams/ Packham/ Monbiot etc all I feel communicate a type of modern conservation that lacks practical aptitude

 

[topground]

No idea what constitutes an 'environmentalist', and more generally have a suspicion of anyone whose job title ends in 'ist'. I would identify as an 'environmental campaigner' and 'farmer', in that order.

I identify as a food producer and custodian of my local environment.

 

[MRT]

I identify as a food producer and custodian of my local environment.

Can't say custodian, it get the spring watchers very, very angry

 

[topground]

Can't say custodian, it get the spring watchers very, very angry

Find me one and I will repeat custodian until the spring watcher goes pop.

 

[Bumble Bee]

The trouble with some 'Environmentalists' is that they take everything they hear from the likes of the RSPB, Wildlife trusts etc as gospel. Unfortunately these organisations like to create sensationalist headline and tell the public that nature is in crisis, all to getvthem to part with £5/month.
Of you ever dare to challenge them , as i often do on their social media pages, with facts or something that you see regularly on your farm, you just get told that reports done by far cleverer people that me say otherwise and that I am talking rubbish. They are usually quite rude actually.
It's time some of these charities were taken tontasknover the lies that they spread.

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

I like to think that I am a farmer and and environmentalist.
I farm over 600 acres of SSSI, what I call Preservation NOT Conservation because it became an SSSI due to the way we have farmed teh land for decades.
I also control the predators so kill quite a lot of things!!

I have managed woodland and plant hedges, use very little fertilizer and as few sprays as possible.

I have a farm that is part of a Nature Reserve with lots of Footpaths and permissive paths. Recently I have had complaints from people that the cattle shouldn't be in the fields where people walk and they make a mess!!

We have a lot of very rare plants, due entirely to the way we manage the land and cattle are a major part of that.

So am I an Environmentalist and a Farmer or just a Farmer who upsets the Public because there are cattle that sh!t on their walks?

 

[FonterraFarmer]

read a piece about James Rebanks he calls himself a farmer and environmentalist

he was on a defa committee but resigned as the environmentalist said there were to many farmers

every farmer who has an area of land that is not farmed for food but farmed for the environment should be designated as an environmentalist and farmer

many of us farmers also farm with the environment

so we should identify as and environmentalist farmer

mixed farmers woodland farmers notill farmers mintill farmers no insecticide farmers
all environmental farmers

Environmentalist is much like the word liberal as used in 2024 especially in politics , no longer meaning what it did in the past.
What both seem to have in common is the fact that both words have been hijacked by a ill tolerant and narrow minded minority devoid of reality.
Personally I'd be happier to be called a property care taker with a personal obligation to care and improve land for successive generations rather than being referred to in any context as an environmentalist, as most/many environmentalists only preach/rant/talk but actually do nothing physically.
Equally in politics how can anyone be referred to as environmentally bias or "green" when they proactively promote uncoordinated unstructured urban growth and the use of resource intensive, mineral depleating toxic materials to feed an excessively consumer oriented market.

 

[Yale]

Makes you think that in some instances public access should be restricted on environmental grounds. However can you imagine the ramblers association agreeing?

 

[suffolksmallholder]

I like to think that I am a farmer and and environmentalist.
I farm over 600 acres of SSSI, what I call Preservation NOT Conservation because it became an SSSI due to the way we have farmed teh land for decades.
I also control the predators so kill quite a lot of things!!

I have managed woodland and plant hedges, use very little fertilizer and as few sprays as possible.

I have a farm that is part of a Nature Reserve with lots of Footpaths and permissive paths. Recently I have had complaints from people that the cattle shouldn't be in the fields where people walk and they make a mess!!

We have a lot of very rare plants, due entirely to the way we manage the land and cattle are a major part of that.

So am I an Environmentalist and a Farmer or just a Farmer who upsets the Public because there are cattle that sh!t on their walks?

Lovely! Made oi laugh
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