Clare won't use click as she had a reaction to it years ago
Farmer Roy's Random Thoughts - I never said it was easy.
- Thread starter Farmer Roy
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No, wanted food. Like a giant seagull.
RushesToo
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- Location
- Fingringhoe
All this discussion of pesticides made me think. What do you want from a chemical that is designed to kill things?
How we feel about this has changed, not sure why - as food has become cheaper we care more about the production and that adds cost - that seems contrary.
- 100% kill
- target species only
- Deactivates after a short time in contact with .... ?
How we feel about this has changed, not sure why - as food has become cheaper we care more about the production and that adds cost - that seems contrary.
In defence of scientific progress of such things.
Click and clickzin is a good example of how science has improved the ‘blast it all’ approach. It’s an insect growth regulator technology rather than a ‘poison’ per se. Similarly pyrethroid containing pour on, though relying on chemical repellent, is using the naturally occurring chemical (permethrin) found in chrysanthemums to work. So it is much safer than OP’s for the humans (and animals) applying it. Clever use of isomer (cis:trans) chemistry makes it even safer again.
Progress at least.
Click and clickzin is a good example of how science has improved the ‘blast it all’ approach. It’s an insect growth regulator technology rather than a ‘poison’ per se. Similarly pyrethroid containing pour on, though relying on chemical repellent, is using the naturally occurring chemical (permethrin) found in chrysanthemums to work. So it is much safer than OP’s for the humans (and animals) applying it. Clever use of isomer (cis:trans) chemistry makes it even safer again.
Progress at least.
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Temik was pure evil. It was only used in the UK for potato cyst nematode, as a granule incorporated into the seedbed. We were taught at college that one prill had enough active ingredient to kill 6 humans. It was what Union Carbide were making at Bhopal in India when the plant went wrong and killed around 2500 locals.
- Location
- southern riverina Australia
Didnt progress much from sending 8 year olds down coal mines.......such a civilized country
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
I told you it was nasty sh!t
There was nothing casual about the way we handled it. It was made very clear to us how dangerous it was. I have a Temik Certificate somewhere saying I am approved to handle it.
There were restrictions on the sale, transport, use & handling of it.
We ( as an industry & us as operators ) took it very seriously
None of this "it'll be ok" attitude
glasshouse
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- Location
- lothians
Back then in the fifties sixtie and seventies it was heel to the steel production at all costs
No one took thr trouble to explain the risks from chemicals.
We got a course at college in 81 on safety which helped a lot.
Only hospitalisation i have seen was in oz
No one took thr trouble to explain the risks from chemicals.
We got a course at college in 81 on safety which helped a lot.
Only hospitalisation i have seen was in oz
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
Some corporate irrigation farms used to treat staff appallingly, especially casuals & back packers, with little regard for them
glasshouse
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- Location
- lothians
I could have been burned by anhydrous ammonia when the pressure valve blew. Lucky i was ten yards away
No protective gear issued at all
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
Yeah, some of those blokes are real girls
Speaking now from a contract cotton stripping point of view, there is a definite cultural / mindset difference between managers / owners on irrigation compared to dryland . . .
But yeah, there are some real arseholes out there who care about nothing but the $$
- Location
- southern riverina Australia
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
So a highly dangerous, systemic insecticide that remained active in the plant for weeks, was used in human food crops ?
That was the thing about the bad old days of cotton. When they were using lots of endosulfon & other nasties chasing heliothis ( the major pest ) they were just leaving a sterile wasteland, taking out all the beneficial spiders, parasitic wasps, beetles & all the other natural predators. As a result, thrips & aphid numbers could escalate, requiring more sprays to control them
Fortunately, we really recognise the benefits of these other insects.
Commercial arable agriculture just needs to take the next big leap of recognising the value of fungi, nematodes & other biology, rather than the current ideology which is all about killing life . . .
- Location
- southern riverina Australia
Least you dont eat cotton......
Tell that to my cat.
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
Chocolate coated Egyptian cotton anyone ?
glasshouse
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- Location
- lothians
Temil was used in potatoes so that you could ignore the rules of good husbandry and grow spuds more than one yr in six.
Same with blackgrass, excrpt it didnt work
Same with blackgrass, excrpt it didnt work
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
It's sad in a lot of ways, not least that it's devalued food and commodities so much.
It makes you really question "who got away with it"? When you see how much the world's farmers are struggling today, health systems overloaded, etc etc
The success of it has a shorter half life than the damages
It makes you really question "who got away with it"? When you see how much the world's farmers are struggling today, health systems overloaded, etc etc
The success of it has a shorter half life than the damages
what stops spuds being grown more than one year in six ?
- Location
- pembrokeshire
good practice, build up of disease and eelworm, was it euston farm that was bought by smiths or golden wonder and had spuds year after year now they cant grow them there