Farmer Roy's Random Thoughts - I never said it was easy.

Yale

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Kiwi Pete

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That’s a fascinating report.

You would think an established company like Fonterra with its access to supply could never go wrong.
Industrial n(d)umbness knows no size limits.

Personally I believe that the best time to be looking at the next big thing for your business was yesterday - ie when you are at the top of your game, that's when you need to be hungry for better things, new things - not just get comfy and spend your share on big pay rises

Even our little business gets redesigned, based on feedback loops, constantly.... we are always hungry for better performance, capturing better value of what is produced

IMO they dropped the easy catch of the match when they focussed on production volume, rather than production methods.
'Grass-based dairy nutrition' doesn't have the oomph compared to 100% grassfed dairy, ie PKE and urea inputs have damaged their ideal model and thus they're simply the world's second largest dairy commodity exporters with no real USP
 
Alot of management is promited from purple circles these days....hence get 1 idiot at the top he will get the idiot mates in, next thing bang, solid business belly up.

I work in corporate environment and see this often...so its of no surprise how they go bang.

Also corruption is rife, theres some news about this related to a mining companynat the moment.

I as joe blogs have to do online anti corruption courses every 6 and 12 months, i just dod a heap took me 8 hours....every employee including CEO is meant to do this and abide by it....

Ant...
 

holwellcourtfarm

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Theres been 680 homes destroyed by fires, they do not give a rating or statistic of how many of those houses would be deemed safe or high risk frim being built in amongst trees and bush.

When u see where alot have built its of no surprise.

Ant...
The Aussie version of our insistence on building in flood plains :rolleyes:
 

Farmer Roy

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Doc

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Enjoying a good holiday read. ‘Sapiens’ by youval Harari.
I know it’s dangerous to recommend books on here but this is very interesting and thought provoking.
Even covers a bit of Australian and NZ history and mans effect on the natural environment from first habitation as well as a well researched view on development of agrarian societies globally. Some of the views and conclusions would not be out of place in the Holistic farming thread.
 
As ive stated, if we had ivms tracking on fure fighting units, overlay time spent at buildings in highly fire prone areas, we would then have a % of rime utilized fighting these fires, then work out if we had that availability at the fire front we coukd calculate what our capabilities would be.

So if bush was cleared around buildings or sprinkler systems mandatory like industrial estates, we could more time at the fore front, control it quicker, save more wildlife.

Its clear in oz that our strategies in risk management are very poor, and not fit for purpose.
1. Fire
2. Flood
3. Drought

Catches us out year after year, so our risk mitigation to these events is poor. Most people dont bat an eyelid at risk management on a personal scale.

All the data ia there from the last 200 yrara on what to reasonably expect.

And yet so many blame climate change at an instance.

I never been in oz during a summer where theres not a hot windy day, even as a kid we had it.

People come complacent and start to draw up new trends based on zero data. Traditionally safe rainfall zone is a classic. If it was a safe rainfall zone you wouldnt be in drought.

Ant...
 
I have just seen some of the figures for areas of land that have been burnt not far from Sydney due to forest fires. What type of vegetation is it mainly in those huge areas that have been burnt out . Hard to come to terms with such huge areas being affected by fire, are those areas mainly livestock ranches with very low stocking rates per ha ???
Very sad to see a volunteer firefighter has been arrested for arson what a sad case, wherever the guy was starting fires.

Over the last 15 years large areas of state forest have been made NP. When they were state forest there was more managment with logging and maintained tracks and fire trails. National parks shut most small tracks and don’t maintain fire trails. They now have very few breaks they can do back burns off on the days with suitable weather. Back burning off a road is realy the only way to attempt to stop these fires and you need enough roads and suitable weather to do that.

There has always been arsonists joining the fire brigades. These people love fires and the best way to be close to fire is join a fire brigade. We once a had a bloke we were not sure about. He told someone he had been investigated for lighting fires in another state and he was always ready to go to a fire. People did cheack which direction he arrived at the fire station from when there was a fire.
 
Over the last 15 years large areas of state forest have been made NP. When they were state forest there was more managment with logging and maintained tracks and fire trails. National parks shut most small tracks and don’t maintain fire trails. They now have very few breaks they can do back burns off on the days with suitable weather. Back burning off a road is realy the only way to attempt to stop these fires and you need enough roads and suitable weather to do that.

There has always been arsonists joining the fire brigades. These people love fires and the best way to be close to fire is join a fire brigade. We once a had a bloke we were not sure about. He told someone he had been investigated for lighting fires in another state and he was always ready to go to a fire. People did cheack which direction he arrived at the fire station from when there was a fire.

The national parks risk management ia not fit to protect what they are responsible for, the park and the animals...wildlife australia amd rscpa should lodge court proceedings if they were serious, they have neglected there duty and risk human lives because of it.

Same as councils approving home builds in high fire risk zone.

Ant...
 

CornishTone

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Bloody terrifying to see that coming towards you I should think!

But it does show a) how quickly fire can move in those conditions and b) gives a hint at the radiant heat that can do so much harm, did you spot the weird, almost liquid like, fire on the ground creeping ahead of fire in the tree tops? Almost like there was oil or petrol on the floor. Very scary!
 

Blaithin

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Enjoying a good holiday read. ‘Sapiens’ by youval Harari.
I know it’s dangerous to recommend books on here but this is very interesting and thought provoking.
Even covers a bit of Australian and NZ history and mans effect on the natural environment from first habitation as well as a well researched view on development of agrarian societies globally. Some of the views and conclusions would not be out of place in the Holistic farming thread.
 
When we burnt straw I saw how the fire generates it own wind and how far it could jump be a fire break
and the biggest area I was involved in was 100 acres when it was regulated that was reduced to 25 acres And 2 tonnes of fuel per acre
thousands of acres of bush or forest must be horrific especially with no fire breaks ( natural or managed )
the problem will be non existent in farming country grazed down or no crops due to drought and farmers cultivating fire breaks
When I visited Australia I learned that the native Australians managed the countryside for thousands of years
 

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