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cows sh#t me to tears

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Honestly don’t really know. Never lived in an area where it’s a direct concern. Pretty sure it’s usually fatal. Think you can just treat the symptoms and hope.

Never really heard of people getting it but we aren’t out sniffling around the ground. Probably not impossible. Although it would most likely be direct infection, not from the animals as it’s a spore not a disease.
First thing you know about it is legs in the air:( If you've had a reactor you are entitled to subsidized vaccine for several years. You are not to move the dead beast. It has to be incinerated where it dropped. As it's blood born the spores will spread from the blood that oozes from the dead animal. Every outbreak down here somone will usually contract it. It's never fatal for humans as there pretty good at treating it. The people most likely to contract it are the knackery workers dealing with the dead cow before they realize that it' anthrax.
 

Agrispeed

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Anthrax testing is still around here. I think you are supposed to notify your vet if a cow dies in mysterious circumstances. We had one this spring and they contacted APHA who ummed and ahhed about testing it before they decided they couldn't be bothered.
 

cows sh#t me to tears

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Deerefarmer

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USA
Doesn't the UK have a cattle vac program in place for tb? Or does it wear off after a while?
Or am I losing out on cattle rearing?seem like I remember a tb vac in our calfhood vac program at home
 
So what happened to yours:scratchhead: friends down the road went 12 tonne/ ha averageo_O

:facepalm:thought you had a big bit of s**t on the windscreen in your first pic till I zoomed in and realised it was a black dog:rolleyes::ROFLMAO::facepalm:

Shorter season YRK5 and it’s yields less but is worth more than everything except Koshi.
Ended up with about 160 t off 20 ha so 8 tones a hectare. Top half of the paddock was yielding 10 to 11 t/ha in places, but some of the bottom bay was very thin.
Airseeder sown rice is sprayed with Paraquat as it starts to come up to kill all the weeds which are faster emerging. Usually kill a small % of rice but the bottom bays must have come up quicker due to different soil type. Usually rice tillers out and makes up for poor plant stand, but for sme reason the bottom two bays never took off.
 
Al least one knackery worker from Finley has had it in the past, and it is easterly treatable unless the spores are inhaled and you get it in the lungs. Stock usually get it in the lungs by inhaling spores, but people usually get it through injuries on their hands handeling dead stock.

First thing you know about it is legs in the air:( If you've had a reactor you are entitled to subsidized vaccine for several years. You are not to move the dead beast. It has to be incinerated where it dropped. As it's blood born the spores will spread from the blood that oozes from the dead animal. Every outbreak down here somone will usually contract it. It's never fatal for humans as there pretty good at treating it. The people most likely to contract it are the knackery workers dealing with the dead cow before they realize that it' anthrax.
 

graham99

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Yes. The bison are more controlled as their numbers are smaller and they’re in a park. There’s legislation about having cows close to the park and the bison are not really allowed out.

But Elk and Deer you can’t keep out of anywhere. If the cattle can get fluke from the deer, then obviously they’re around them enough for contact. Not to mention the fact that our badgers don’t seem in any way to be a point of TB. But they also go everywhere, with the deer and in with cattle.

As for the overpopulation theory brought up, the areas with a high overpopulation of deer do not correspondingly have TB. The area with TB are usually fairly average numbers. However culls are a thing here. Especially in regards to chronic wasting disease. If a zone is seen to be suffering to badly then more hunting tags are issued for that area during the season and the cull is on.
in NZ we had buffer zones .and TB was contained.
then some idiot decided to let trucks drive though the buffer zone's ,where they happened run over a opossum with TB.
the mince meat that was the result was then suck to the under side of the trucks ,which in a lot of case's were carting animals to the works ,and then took the TB to the farm.
a lot NZ's factroy farm's are in the old TB buffer zone's
 

hendrebc

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Doesn't the UK have a cattle vac program in place for tb? Or does it wear off after a while?
Or am I losing out on cattle rearing?seem like I remember a tb vac in our calfhood vac program at home
Not vaccines no. The badger lovers are pushing for us to vaccinate but if we did it would be admitting that we will never get rid of it. The test cant tell the difference between vaccinated cattle and infected ones. If that happened tb would still be a priblem in cattle because the vaccine isnt 100% effective and the badgers would still have it. It could turn into a human health problem very very quickly if it is allowed to get worse. At least with testing we know were it is and were the tb badgers are. Not practical to vaccinate the badgers either though lots have tried :rolleyes: the badgers would still be full of tb and dying miserable deaths from it :(
Getting rid of it by culling is perfecrly achievable if we were allowed to just get in with it and cull the wildlife resovoir as well.
 

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