Farmer Roy's Random Thoughts - I never said it was easy.

[CornishTone]

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In order to play a didg don't you have to able to breathe in and out at the same time?
A continuous stream of air through your nose and out through your mouth!!

Circular breathing, yes. It messes with your head when you try it.

You push the air out with your cheek muscles whilst blocking your throat with your tongue and take a quick breath through your nose.

I usually manage a couple of cycles before I choke or lose consciousness! I think people who play sax and the like do it too.

 

[glasshouse]

Circular breathing, yes. It messes with your head when you try it.

You push the air out with your cheek muscles whilst blocking your throat with your tongue and take a quick breath through your nose.

I usually manage a couple of cycles before I choke or lose consciousness! I think people who play sax and the like do it too.

Could kevin wilson not breath through his ears?

 

[Farmer Roy]

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In order to play a didg don't you have to able to breathe in and out at the same time?
A continuous stream of air through your nose and out through your mouth!!

yeah, its a bit like a bagpipe without the bag
using your mouth / lungs as the bag instead. I don't fully understand it, but along with the bagpipes they my favourite sound

 

[Farmer Roy]

You can't help farmers if you won't tackle climate change, farmer tells government

Goondiwindi grain and cattle producer Peter Mailler says heat and inconsistent rain have made farming so tough he thinks his parents' five MW solar farm could be a better bet. Wayne Pratt

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by Ben Potter

Peter Mailler, a third-generation grain and cattle grower who sent pregnant cows for slaughter this week because he can't feed them all, has a message from drought-stricken northern NSW to the Turnbull government.

It is aimed especially at the Nationals and their former leader Barnaby Joyce – against whom Mr Mailler ran in last December's byelection – as well as ex-PM Tony Abbott and other coal power-friendly Coalition figures.

First, don't pretend to champion drought-struck farmers if you're not prepared to tackle climate change – because the increasing frequency of extremely hot, dry weather is compounding the effects of drought by impairing crops' ability to use what rain they do get.

Second, don't talk about giving coal-fired power "a free kick" in the National Energy Guarantee (NEG) when a full accounting of its environmental costs will tell you not that we can't afford to close coal plants but that "we can't afford to run one tomorrow".

Peter Mailler says agriculture is working towards becoming carbon neutral but it is a challenge because it uses so much diesel fuel for machinery and transport. Wayne Pratt
Third, don't lean on high-risk, struggling industries like agriculture for deeper carbon emissions cuts when the stable, regulated electricity industry can obviously bear a larger share of the burden.

Last, the impacts of climate change on farming families threaten the survival of the Nationals' support base in rural and regional Australia, so it is time for the Coalition to dispense with "undermining science" and have an honest debate about climate change.

"In a normal year we produce enough grain to feed about 7000 families and I am flat out educating my kids," Mr Mailler tells The Australian Financial Review from his near 2420-hectare property near Goondiwindi on the NSW-Queensland border.

"I actually don't see a pathway for my kids to come back – and some of them want to." His parents built a five-megawatt solar farm on their property when they retired and he thinks this could be a better bet.

Mr Mailler says the conversation needs to be more robust. "If Turnbull and his cohort are nor prepared to diligently install some truth in the debate then what's the point?" he says.

Coal-friendly coailtion MPs Craig Kelly, Eric Abetz, Tony Abbott, Barnaby Joyce and Kevin Andrews are doing farmers no favours, Peter Mailler says. Alex Ellinghausen
First, "you cannot fix the energy problem if you are going to ignore climate ... because you are working on the wrong set of assumptions", says Mr Mailler, who trained as an agricultural scientist before returning to his parents' farm and then striking out on his own.

A 'free kick' for electricity
That makes it "disingenuous" and "hypocritical" for Mr Joyce to stand shoulder to shoulder with farmers and say "we have got to do something about the drought and not say we have got to do something about climate change".

Mr Mailler says politicians have the resources to find out the truth "yet we have politicians who spend all their time trying to undermine science and create doubt".

Moree in northern NSW sweated through an unprecedented heatwave in January and February of 2017. Supplied
"The science [of man-made global warming] is pretty unequivocal and the idea that you can subvert it and create doubt is not just irresponsible, it's diabolical," he says.

"They are talking about trying to claw back more emissions from agriculture and they are talking about giving electricity a free kick. It's ridiculous."

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg will propose a "coal-friendly" side deal for the NEG at Tuesday's party room meeting to try to win over climate change sceptics.

Critics say the NEG is already too coal-friendly because it only requires a pro rata 26 per cent carbon emissions cut from the electricity sector. CSIRO advised the government that grid emissions would have to be cut by 52 per cent to 70 per cent for Australia to meet the government's Paris pledge for an economy-wide 26 per cent cut because it is much more costly to cut emissions in other industries.

Environment and Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg and Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull will try to win backbench sceptics over the NEG with a coal-friendly side-deal. Alex Ellinghausen
Mr Mailler says agriculture is itself working towards becoming carbon neutral but it is a challenge because agriculture uses so much diesel fuel for machinery and transport.

"The hardest thing to solve is transport. The simplest thing to change is static electricity. If you look at it, coal-fired power generators are coming to the end of their life. The idea that you could have politicians effectively saying we should build more of them and have them for another 50 years is absurd."

Heat and rain: Double whammy
Mr Mailler's position is influenced by bitter experience as well as science. In January 2014, the nearest Bureau of Meteorology station at Moree recorded a record high of 47.3 degrees Celsius, and everyone said it was "a one-in-a-hundred year event".

Yallourn coal-fired power station in Victoria's Latrobe Valley. Carla Gottgens
That one day wiped out crops and cost the region hundreds of millions of dollars in production, he says. But it didn't get the same attention as losses from cyclones, which are more visible.

In February last year the one-in-a-hundred year event happened again, only this time it came with a record run of days over 35 degrees.

Biochemical reactions like photosynthesis are optimised at 37-38 degrees. But at extreme high temperatures plants go into shock and the photosynthesis process is degraded.

As well, rain is increasingly coming in big dumps followed by dry spells, which make it harder for young plants to get going than if less rain falls more frequently.

"In some of those scenarios we have adequate moisture but we can't handle the heat. People are unable to get ahead. Even though some of those years before we have had significant rainfall, the way it's fallen in big dumps has been problematic and the heat has meant we are not able to use that rainfall as effectively as we have in the past."

Recent analysis in the McIntyre Valley indicates that irrigators' water use efficiency is down 30 per cent, and for dryland farmers 60 per cent, Mr Mailler says. Another measure is the inability to get consecutive good years or even one in five – the minimum to build resilience – for more than 20 years.

The last really good year in his region was 1996, Mr Mailler says – which gave him the confidence to strike out on his own.

"I have no doubt that in my lifetime weather patterns have shifted significantly. I don't know many farmers who would dispute that the climate has changed," he says.


"And it's obviously going to get worse."

 

[Blaithin]

This is what the Southern half of the province looks like right now. Fire bans and advisories everywhere. Full fire ban in my county.

 

[Farmer Roy]

This is what the Southern half of the province looks like right now. Fire bans and advisories everywhere. Full fire ban in my county.

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total fire ban for the Hunter - to the south east of us. We are in the Northern Slopes, area 12 on map

its still winter here now, makes you wonder what the summer will be like . . .

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

Well we're all full of cheery news on here today no allocation for NSW Murray irrigators at all still. Whilst across the river in Victoria both the Murray and Goulburn systems got a 10% increase to 59 and 47% respectively.
And to rub a bit more salt into the wound, today's rain we were supposed to get has all gone south of the border virtually in a line across from Kyabram to the ranges

 

[Farmer Roy]

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[CornishTone]

Well we're all full of cheery news on here today no allocation for NSW Murray irrigators at all still. Whilst across the river in Victoria both the Murray and Goulburn systems got a 10% increase to 59 and 47% respectively.
And to rub a bit more salt into the wound, today's rain we were supposed to get has all gone south of the border virtually in a line across from Kyabram to the ranges

How on earth can they justify that much of a difference in allocation from one side of the river to the other?

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

How on earth can they justify that much of a difference in allocation from one side of the river to the other?

I don't honestly know now....In Vic they have both a high and low reliability water entitlement. Up until recently they could not carryover water. Unused water went back into the pool to make next years allocation ( this giving them a higher reliability) , now they can carry it over against there low reliability water shares. So there should be less water to divvy up amongst Vic irrigators.

NSW also has the ability to carryover water...which also reduces the space in storage for the following season. That being said though, most NSW Murray system farms had traditionally about a meg an acre in water holdings ie a 600acre farm had around 600ml of entitlement. The Murrumbidgee has virtually double, most rice blocks around Colleambally had 1200megs for a 600acres. In Vic it was much the same. Most of those former dairy blocks had 2 to 300 megs on a 100 ac block.
So I really am bùggered if I know why we were screwed at the negotiating table all those years ago....Rumour has it the Victorian and South Australian ministers got the NSW minister drunk and shoved the paper in front of him to sign.....Going by the dubious record of most NSW politicians, I wouldn't at all be surprised if that was 100% correct.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

On crack maybe?

 

[Farmer Roy]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=678730775832076

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

Just on the carryover rules again. We can carry over 50% from one year to the next. However, once the following season passes 50% announced allocation we dont get anymore water. So if its 100% you basically lose 50%. In Vic though, they only lose there carryover if theres an internal spill of water. Meaning if there share of the storages passes there limit and further inflows accrue to NSW. Also those prìcks can buy low reliability shares to carry water over against as well.
It truly is an abortion of a system and yet we constantly get blamed for using all the water........

 

[Farmer Roy]

http://www.abc.net.au/radio/program...calling-for-action-on-climate-change/10122998

 

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[CornishTone]

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[holwellcourtfarm]

It really is time for a complete change in the political reality across the world. Most countries are currently run by a political elite that is focused on vested big business interests and short term advantage. Under this system there appears to be no hope for the changes needed to truly address climate change.

Virtually every government seems to be fully signed up to the "never-ending economic growth" model of "progress", one that Emmett at. al. have utterly swallowed.

We need to develop a better economy, not a bigger one.

Are our views on this thread really so "left field"?

 

[hendrebc]

It really is time for a complete change in the political reality across the world. Most countries are currently run by a political elite that is focused on vested big business interests and short term advantage. Under this system there appears to be no hope for the changes needed to truly address climate change.

Virtually every government seems to be fully signed up to the "never-ending economic growth" model of "progress", one that Emmett at. al. have utterly swallowed.

We need to develop a better economy, not a bigger one.

Are our views on this thread really so "left field"?

I think us lot would probably make a pretty good government. We cant be any worse than the current lot anyway

 

[texas pete]

It really is time for a complete change in the political reality across the world. Most countries are currently run by a political elite that is focused on vested big business interests and short term advantage. Under this system there appears to be no hope for the changes needed to truly address climate change.

Virtually every government seems to be fully signed up to the "never-ending economic growth" model of "progress", one that Emmett at. al. have utterly swallowed.

We need to develop a better economy, not a bigger one.

Are our views on this thread really so "left field"?

Dead right.

The trouble is most are too far down that road, or fully invested. "There is no other way" Short term-ism, money and face saving are the order of the day.

I know we don't seem to be blessed with a particularly proactive political system at the moment, but when was the last time a politician (or a party) actually announced or created something that actually, really makes a f**kign difference, rather than just for sound bites etc.......You could argue that Farage is about the only politician who has actually achieved anything like "progress" (personally) but lets not go there.

 

[texas pete]

I think us lot would probably make a pretty good government. We cant be any worse than the current lot anyway

What, you mean the "Antipodean Mafia, and the sheep"

https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/dairy-sideline.242492/page-6