Farmer Roy's Random Thoughts - I never said it was easy.

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
I think over here a header is a big machine that goes around and takes all the heads off a crop.
Combine - not sure I've heard a kiwi call a header a combine but there we go.

Anyone know what a "Chicken Scratcher" is? :)
 

Farmer Roy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
err, something that scratches chickens . . .

our British & North American cousins are very pedantic
they call the big wide thing ( ok, only the NA have wide :) ) out the front that cuts the crop the 'header' & the big noisy thing behind it that threshes & separates the grain the 'combine'

now, Aussies are simple, blunt speaking folk who don't like talking much as the flies get in your mouth. When WE started using HEADERS ( Sunshine, HV McKay etc, basically invented the modern combine harvester while in Europe / UK they were still using scythes & unpaid family labour ) the front cutting bit & the rear threshing / separation bit were one integral unit, not separate items as today. Thus, the WHOLE machine was just called a header ( that's what it did, cut the heads off ), rather than calling it a crop cutting threshing separating & grain cleaning automation machine !!

So, the term 'header' in Australia is a historical one & reflects the very long association we have with these machines

Clear ?

:D:D
 

Dead Rabbits

Member
Location
'Merica
err, something that scratches chickens . . .

our British & North American cousins are very pedantic
they call the big wide thing ( ok, only the NA have wide :) ) out the front that cuts the crop the 'header' & the big noisy thing behind it that threshes & separates the grain the 'combine'

now, Aussies are simple, blunt speaking folk who don't like talking much as the flies get in your mouth. When WE started using HEADERS ( Sunshine, HV McKay etc, basically invented the modern combine harvester while in Europe / UK they were still using scythes & unpaid family labour ) the front cutting bit & the rear threshing / separation bit were one integral unit, not separate items as today. Thus, the WHOLE machine was just called a header ( that's what it did, cut the heads off ), rather than calling it a crop cutting threshing separating & grain cleaning automation machine !!

So, the term 'header' in Australia is a historical one & reflects the very long association we have with these machines

Clear ?

:D:D

Over here on the prairies before combines, they had headers as well. The horses basically pushed a header and the cut straw was elevated off to the side into wagons to be taken to the thresher.

A combine is what the header attaches to nowadays though.
 

CornishTone

Member
BASIS
Location
Cornwall
err, something that scratches chickens . . .

our British & North American cousins are very pedantic
they call the big wide thing ( ok, only the NA have wide :) ) out the front that cuts the crop the 'header' & the big noisy thing behind it that threshes & separates the grain the 'combine'

now, Aussies are simple, blunt speaking folk who don't like talking much as the flies get in your mouth. When WE started using HEADERS ( Sunshine, HV McKay etc, basically invented the modern combine harvester while in Europe / UK they were still using scythes & unpaid family labour ) the front cutting bit & the rear threshing / separation bit were one integral unit, not separate items as today. Thus, the WHOLE machine was just called a header ( that's what it did, cut the heads off ), rather than calling it a crop cutting threshing separating & grain cleaning automation machine !!

So, the term 'header' in Australia is a historical one & reflects the very long association we have with these machines

Clear ?

:D:D

So you “invented the modern combine harvester” named it as such and then called it something different?

We Brits, Yanks and Canadians are simple, blunt speaking folks who, when someone invents something called the “combine harvester” simply call it a combine to shorten it without causing confusion, as it combines the business of threshing and separating the crop. The header cuts he heads off and must be removed for transport in the UK to avoid upsetting the Jones’ who have parked their BMW X5 on the side of the f’ing road and usually in the f’ing way!
 

Farmer Roy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
oh, im talking historically, as in 1920's or so. They were very narrow & an integral machine
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we cant go running around much anywhere with a 12m front on, we have very strict transport regulations.
Not like parts of the US

as for plain speaking, we do have the habit of calling someone David, shortening to Dave, then lengthening it again to Davo or even Dazzer . . .
doesn't make sense I know

I never said it was easy :)
 

Farmer Roy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
So you “invented the modern combine harvester” named it as such and then called it something different?

We Brits, Yanks and Canadians are simple, blunt speaking folks who, when someone invents something called the “combine harvester” simply call it a combine to shorten it without causing confusion, as it combines the business of threshing and separating the crop. The header cuts he heads off and must be removed for transport in the UK to avoid upsetting the Jones’ who have parked their BMW X5 on the side of the f’ing road and usually in the f’ing way!

bit hot today is it ? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

Farmer Roy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
Ah but not all combine headers cut the heads off the crop. Some pick up swaths.

Therefore the term being used based on removing heads is false. It makes much more sense that it’s because it’s in front of the machine and therefore, a head :)

Based on your term a swather would also be called a header.

ha - now you're being logical :eek:

I never said it made sense :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
Someone with a weird chicken fetish?
No, that's your foxy neighbour...
I thought I'd find a picture of one but can't.
Basically a tractor (2wd) with a rear end loader, named for the way it pig-jumps when you load from a stockpile, the only way to get traction is to keep lifting the bucket.
Have seen an excellent video of one loading massive boulders, bet the operator had whiplash after....

Haha I will let Roy battle out why a header is a header and not a sofa, which combines rest with sleep and babymaking if you get keen.
Pretty sure what I just ate was also combined but it sure wasn't full of grain
 

CornishTone

Member
BASIS
Location
Cornwall
No, that's your foxy neighbour...
I thought I'd find a picture of one but can't.
Basically a tractor (2wd) with a rear end loader, named for the way it pig-jumps when you load from a stockpile, the only way to get traction is to keep lifting the bucket.
Have seen an excellent video of one loading massive boulders, bet the operator had whiplash after....

Haha I will let Roy battle out why a header is a header and not a sofa, which combines rest with sleep and babymaking if you get keen.
Pretty sure what I just ate was also combined but it sure wasn't full of grain

Dad used to have a rear mounted loader on a Super Major. Never heard it called that though!
 

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