Farmer Roy's Random Thoughts - I never said it was easy.

Doc

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Livestock Farmer
Im a bit behind.
A normal heifer/cow should be able to calve a reasonably viable calf at 270 days. Viability reduces for each day less. I think inducing calving at less is irresponsible for long term herd health unless it’s hydrops etc and its a case of value salvage with subsequent culling once drug withdrawals are met.

Of course there will always be exceptions of the wee calf that lived and ended up an Olympian but it’s a whole lot of work and probably not commercially sensible. I’ve had a couple of <270 d calves live and kept them but they ended up pets really.
The prolongation of gestation due to breed variability is the main factor in foetal oversize issues. In this I’m referring to the ‘whole’ rather than individuals.

I’m probably sounding like a broken record but in commercial suckler/beef enterprises, select for weaned calves per cow per year and you will be inadvertently selecting for calving ease. This is well demonstrated.
It can be and is done in cattle as much as sheep in areas where it matters as Roy alludes to. Intervention is the problem as all you are doing is propagating the fault, which from a more ‘holistic’ view is anti welfare. You are breeding cattle which need you rather than ones which don’t.
It’s a tough love concept. Short term pain but better for all in the long run.
 
Definitely. "Concurrent" sentencing is a gift to the criminal. It effectively means that after a single severe crime any others of the same crime go Scott free. :mad::banghead::banghead::banghead:

I fully agree with @hendrebc as well, once you've sentenced someone to longer than they will live they might as well just be humanely put to sleep like you might a dangerous dog (subject to the certainty of the conviction of course).
I'm guessing the Green party will back that 100%.:rolleyes:
 

hendrebc

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Livestock Farmer
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Well after a shitty day yesterday, today was much better. One set of triplets and there were 3 singles running round too. All fine and didn't , and still haven't, touched any of them. That's how sheep should be (y)
Not meant to start for a few days but I guess the sheep don't know that :rolleyes:
 

texas pete

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East Mids
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Well after a shitty day yesterday, today was much better. One set of triplets and there were 3 singles running round too. All fine and didn't , and still haven't, touched any of them. That's how sheep should be (y)
Not meant to start for a few days but I guess the sheep don't know that :rolleyes:

She'll certainly wean her bodyweight. (y)
 

Farmer Roy

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Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
Was up at 5.30 this morning to go & pick up a comb trailer at Moree. Had to bring it back to Bellata to put the other stripper front on it. Had to change row configurations from 8 rows at 60" spacings to 5 rows at 2.4 metre spacings, to put on a new stripper that literally drove out of Chesterfields ( JD dealer ) yard this afternoon to start work on an 800ha job not far from Moree. Flat out all day, got the front swapped over & out to the job. By the time calibrations & everything done, it was well after dark before it turned a wheel, but all good. Got back to the quarters ( about an hour away ) after 9.30, windy as all f**k & a blackout. No power means no water & no hot water - covered in oil & grime & sweat from today . . .
Sat in the ute texting & making phone calls for half an hour as the only power supply I had was the Hilux & my phone was flat . . .
Jumped back in the ute to try my luck at Bellata 24 hr truck stop ( 40 km away ) for a shower. Got there at 10.30 - restaurant & showers close at 10 . . .
f**k it, back to quarters, a couple more beers & I'll just sleep on top of my swag tonight rather than getting my sheets / bedding all dirty
Still windy as all f**k . . .
 

hendrebc

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Livestock Farmer
Was up at 5.30 this morning to go & pick up a comb trailer at Moree. Had to bring it back to Bellata to put the other stripper front on it. Had to change row configurations from 8 rows at 60" spacings to 5 rows at 2.4 metre spacings, to put on a new stripper that literally drove out of Chesterfields ( JD dealer ) yard this afternoon to start work on an 800ha job not far from Moree. Flat out all day, got the front swapped over & out to the job. By the time calibrations & everything done, it was well after dark before it turned a wheel, but all good. Got back to the quarters ( about an hour away ) after 9.30, windy as all f**k & a blackout. No power means no water & no hot water - covered in oil & grime & sweat from today . . .
Sat in the ute texting & making phone calls for half an hour as the only power supply I had was the Hilux & my phone was flat . . .
Jumped back in the ute to try my luck at Bellata 24 hr truck stop ( 40 km away ) for a shower. Got there at 10.30 - restaurant & showers close at 10 . . .
fudge it, back to quarters, a couple more beers & I'll just sleep on top of my swag tonight rather than getting my sheets / bedding all dirty
Still windy as all f**k . . .
We had no water once when I'd been carrying small bales in the afternoon after about dusty day of tedding and raking the hay. I was meant to go out to a young farmers thing that evening and friends had been ringing me all afternoon making sure I was coming. I was covered in dust I could write my name with a wet finger on any exposed skin. Being young and stupid and keen for a drink or ten I did the only thing I could think of and had a bath in the stream :ROFLMAO:
It was bloody cold too to think it was July and hot :coldfeet:
 

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