Farmers burning plastic !

[Ffermer Bach]

Pretty sure it is landfilled here now

 

[Ffermer Bach]

I think the best thing to do is to talk to them

 

[Barleymow]

Dial 999 looks like barn fire

 

[ollie989898]

I don’t think it’s been getting shipped to China for quite some time, since long before Covid.
Pretty sure it’s just been collected and stored since, in the hope that someone will take it sometime.

It seems crazy to me that it isn’t being burnt in power stations, replacing fossil fuels. It’s only oil anyway.

I've said that for years. Plastic is made from oil or natural gas. Which the UK burns with gusto in powerstations. Just incinerate the stuff.

 

[Plain steer]

Report them. Do the EA not have a hotline for such things?

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

Reporting fellow farmers is a pansies trick

 

[Highland Mule]

Reporting fellow farmers is a pansies trick

perhaps, but this “pansy” isn’t a fan of cancer, and would rather not be given it by a competitor on an illegal mission to undercut me on costs.

 

[DrWazzock]

Don’t bother trying to reason with them. If they responded to reason they wouldn’t be doing it in the first place and why should you waste your time and effort. Report them. They richly deserve it. They casually endanger others for their own commercial advantage and don’t give a toss for anybody else. Complete strokers. Most can’t even burn it effectively either but leave it for days smouldering giving off all sorts of half burnt nasties. They are usually the people whose yard is a complete sh!t hole of half burnt heaps, mixed soil and rubble and scrap that should have been dealt with as it arose but they are just too damn idle or badly organised. No sympathy whatsoever.

 

[DrWazzock]

Now where did I leave the matches??

 

[Billboy1]

On a bank holiday!! Surely nov 5th is the night to do it ?

 

[Northeastfarmer]

I don't know which is worse - a plastic burner or an informer.

Im guessing you’ve never been in the receiving end of some bell end burning plastic continuously and it drifting into your house and yard continuously? Why should I get cancer because they are too much of a tight arse to dispose of it properly like any decent human being would

 

[neilo]

They are usually the people whose yard is a complete sh!t hole of half burnt heaps, mixed soil and rubble and scrap that should have been dealt with as it arose but they are just too damn idle or badly organised. No sympathy whatsoever.

That's a bit of a wild assumption. I've seen plenty of places like that where a good bonfire would do the world of good.

 

[John Slejpner]

I've said that for years. Plastic is made from oil or natural gas. Which the UK burns with gusto in powerstations. Just incinerate the stuff.

Ollie you should be well aware plastic is not oil.

A cold plastic fire smouldering away ( cold is less than 850 degrees ?/) is polluting local air with a vast array of noxious crap. Dioxins being one that can induce a thumping headache very easily, as a first symptom.

This guy is either genuinely ignorant or .....
Personally i would talk to the neighbour.

 

[ollie989898]

Ollie you should be well aware plastic is not oil.

A cold plastic fire smouldering away ( cold is less than 850 degrees ?/) is polluting local air with a vast array of noxious crap. Dioxins being one that can induce a thumping headache very easily, as a first symptom.

This guy is either genuinely ignorant or .....
Personally i would talk to the neighbour.

Plastic is made from oil/natural gas. It is a hydrocarbon and should be incinerated in a carefully controlled process and used to make electricity. This landfilling is nonsense and a good portion of it is either impossible to recycle or not commercially viable due to it being too dirty or unsorted.

 

[pellow]

Neighbour here is organic and runs a cult like "christian" group, he runs various businesses and all the rubbish is burnt, the air often smells of burning plastic and sometimes the air is thick with it, I have talked to him about it and he says he doesn't burn plastic. Another neighbour has reported him and he told the EA he doesn't burn plastic and that was good enough for them. What are you supposed to do with someone like that?

 

[Highland Mule]

Plastic is made from oil/natural gas. It is a hydrocarbon and should be incinerated in a carefully controlled process and used to make electricity. This landfilling is nonsense and a good portion of it is either impossible to recycle or not commercially viable due to it being too dirty or unsorted.

Remind us all Ollie, what does the 'C' in PVC stand for? I don't disagree with your ideas, but let's not pretend that plastics are a clean burn.

 

[Highland Mule]

Neighbour here is organic and runs a cult like "christian" group, he runs various businesses and all the rubbish is burnt, the air often smells of burning plastic and sometimes the air is thick with it, I have talked to him about it and he says he doesn't burn plastic. Another neighbour has reported him and he told the EA he doesn't burn plastic and that was good enough for them. What are you supposed to do with someone like that?

1. Keep reporting them, and make sure that the report is taken seriously
2. Move away from the source of pollution
3. Stay put and accept that what smells is a mixture of various toxins that may well kill you and yours.

 

[betweenthelines]

I belive burning industrial waste is illegal,

That's why they do it on a holiday weekend

Do they make Jersey Ice cream?

 

[jondear]

You spend £350 to salve your moral conscience....or to comply? what happens to your dirty plastic wrap/waste down the road? Burnt or buried by a certificated operative?.

@jondear have you tried actually talkin to them instead of communicating kinda indirecty on here?
Reporting then without actually talking to them is just as a shitty thing to do as the burning.
Ps. I am assuming he is a reasonable guy, and you aswell ofcourse.

I'm not going to report him .I doubt they would take any notice .
Just wanted to know if others found it exceptable in this day and age .
Don't get me wrong we've all done it in the past those days have gone .
Everyone gets trouble with neighbors that are a pain in the arse !I know .

 

[ollie989898]

Remind us all Ollie, what does the 'C' in PVC stand for? I don't disagree with your ideas, but let's not pretend that plastics are a clean burn.

The chloride reacts and turns into HCl- a common pollutant when anything is combusted. With commercially available incineration systems these types of materials can either be extracted (for use elsewhere or sold as commodity chemicals), reacted with another agent added to the feedstock or collected the assortment of scrubbing processes. These technologies already exist. We can't continue to landfill materials, it is nonsense. Either recover it, recycle it, incinerate it at high temperature with the assistance of natural gas or perhaps consider a TDP process.

The beauty of waste to energy is that waste streams don't need to be separated fully, metals are recovered at the end and inorganic ash/mineral residues can be used as an aggregate and sold.

 

[PuG]

We pay 1 euro for a role of large sacks. Every May just drop of all the net and silage wrap at the local collection point... or you can take it back to the shop you bought the silage wrap/net from and they will take it for you.