Farmers without qualifications could be excluded from funding

[DrWazzock]

The times I have seen farming businesses that ran for generations go belly up when somebody came back from college with a lot of bright ideas.

I am not knocking education. I have benefitted from it, but it needs applying with caution and it's unwise to ignore knowledge and experience gained by the old folks through actually doing the job for years. I found that out myself.

 

[Bogweevil]

I am an educated idiot, but have a certain low cunning that sees me through. I choose to call that a PhD from the university of life.

 

[Tim W]

Wow
That’s a controversial heading in FG

funding may depend on your level of qualification, as if your not qualified you won’t have the necessary business skills to carry out the action


“Farmers without qualifications could be excluded from funding and tenancies
News08 Jan 2020 Abi Kay
Farmers without formal qualifications could be excluded from accessing Government funding or even tenancies over the next two or three years, a prominent peer has warned.”

Don't see the problem myself ---if you want taxpayers cash you better be able to demonstrate you have been trained properly to use it

 

[Tim W]

Completely ridicules, blatantly manuring to find any excuse to strip payments.

I don't think much of the industry has grasped this yet

It's not a matter of payments being stripped ---it's for recipients to find valid reasons for any future payments to be given
These have to demonstrate value for money returns to the govt./taxpayer

 

[Banana Bar]

I got my cycling proficiency 42 years ago, I reckon I’ll be ok.[emoji1395]

 

[Estate fencing.]

1500 horsey girls?
You must have been skin and bone!!!
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Haha. Best bitter and kebabs kept the weight on.

 

[glasshouse]

The times I have seen farming businesses that ran for generations go belly up when somebody came back from college with a lot of bright ideas.

I am not knocking education. I have benefitted from it, but it needs applying with caution and it's unwise to ignore knowledge and experience gained by the old folks through actually doing the job for years. I found that out myself.

Sometimes when the young ones come back from college , the business is already too deep in a hole for the new ideas to rescue it.

 

[glasshouse]

1500 horsey girls?
You must have been skin and bone!!!

Haha. Best bitter and kebabs kept the weight on.
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At my college we had 50boys and 6girls
Humph!!

 

[Henarar]

Don't see the problem myself ---if you want taxpayers cash you better be able to demonstrate you have been trained properly to use it

by who ?
someone who has done the job for a lifetime made money and paid down several mortgages or someone who can spout about the job

 

[Henarar]

Haha. Best bitter and kebabs kept the weight on.

At my college we had 50boys and 6girls
Humph!!
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Did you end up with Pam ?

 

[glasshouse]

At my college we had 50boys and 6girls
Humph!!

Did you end up with Pam ?
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Who told you?

 

[neilo]

Wow
That’s a controversial heading in FG

funding may depend on your level of qualification, as if your not qualified you won’t have the necessary business skills to carry out the action


“Farmers without qualifications could be excluded from funding and tenancies
News08 Jan 2020 Abi Kay
Farmers without formal qualifications could be excluded from accessing Government funding or even tenancies over the next two or three years, a prominent peer has warned.”

Is this referring to formal qualifications, or evidence that the farmer is undergoing continual training? It is already a requirement to have a Personal Development Plan in place to access lots of the funding in Wales through Farming Connect. The PDP, the writing of can be supported, details you existing training, etc, and allows you to access 80% funding grants on more training, soil testing, consultancy, etc. This is all paid from the 15% of SFP that is modulated, so we are already needing ‘qualifications’ to access funding.
Of course it’s just another paper exercise and creates more jobs for box tickers, consultants and the training industry, which appears to be a growth industry.

 

[Scribus]

Wow
That’s a controversial heading in FG

funding may depend on your level of qualification, as if your not qualified you won’t have the necessary business skills to carry out the action


“Farmers without qualifications could be excluded from funding and tenancies
News08 Jan 2020 Abi Kay
Farmers without formal qualifications could be excluded from accessing Government funding or even tenancies over the next two or three years, a prominent peer has warned.”

Typical narrow minded bureaucratic mindset. Plenty of good farmers without any qualifications just as there are plenty of idle ones who only went to college to get p!ssed and laid.

 

[Henarar]

Who told you?

never mind twas a cheap out

 

[glasshouse]

Typical narrow minded bureaucratic mindset. Plenty of good farmers without any qualifications just as there are plenty of idle ones who only went to college to get p!ssed and laid.

Getting pee'd and laid are valid goals!!

 

[Tim W]

by who ?
someone who has done the job for a lifetime made money and paid down several mortgages or someone who can spout about the job

It's up to the industry to demonstrate that they can deliver value for any taxpayer investment
If you've done the job for a lifetime and paid several mortgages you wont need any support though

 

[Estate fencing.]

Haha. Best bitter and kebabs kept the weight on.

At my college we had 50boys and 6girls
Humph!!
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Some of the stuff we got up to would have involved 6 girls. But in all seriousness it did get a lot out of my system so I could settle do and get on with work when I finished.

 

[Henarar]

It's up to the industry to demonstrate that they can deliver value for any taxpayer investment
If you've done the job for a lifetime and paid several mortgages you wont need any support though

that was the person doing the training, just no fancy certificate at the end of that training

 

[milkloss]

One man band running a super lean business has to employ a extra man and become inefficient to go on a training course to get subs........ yeah, clever.

 

[Bury the Trash]

One man band running a super lean business has to employ a extra man and become inefficient to go on a training course to get subs........ yeah, clever.

poor job if a person is too 'busy' to put some time each day towards learning something new surely, ? can do almost everything online nowadays, learning has never been so available with the internet.


.......youtube is a great resource....