Farming in catchment sensitive area

[deleted user 837354]

I'm interested to know the realities of farming in a catchment sensitive area, particularly for livestock farmers?

What are the practical considerations or limitations it places on you? I can't remember what these are and I've had minimal experience of them in the past?

 

[Princess Pooper]

We were one of the earliest catchment sensitive farming areas. No extra restrictions (already an NVZ) but works by encouragement, grants, promotion of best practice through farm walks, advisory visits etc.

Grants for things like waterside fencing, water troughs or watering points (to allow watering after fencing river), cow tracks, dirty/clean water separation (gutter/downspout renewal etc), concreting yards (with provision for dirty water collection), covering yards or slurry stores, holding pen for sheep after dipping.

It's changed now, so rather than a separate scheme, grants are through Countryside Stewardship, so to get certain items you need to be in a CSF area and to get support from catchment officer.

Basically carrot rather than stick. The focus will vary depending on what the catchment issues are, e.g. is it a sediment issue, phosphates, nitrates, sheep dip etc - after all it's catchment sensitive.

 

[deleted user 837354]

Thank you, so the exact issue they are trying to deal with may determine what they ask people to do. They won't magically force you to put up new slurry stores or anything?

 

[deleted user 837354]

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[Jdunn55]

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What on earth has that got to do with csf???

 

[milkloss]

I'm interested to know the realities of farming in a catchment sensitive area, particularly for livestock farmers?

What are the practical considerations or limitations it places on you? I can't remember what these are and I've had minimal experience of them in the past?

its sh1te. They draw a line, we're on the wrong side by a few hundred yards so get no assistance, grants etc for anything. Broken concrete with fym juice about... who cares? Cows drinking out of the river.... who cares? Sorting dirty water from rain water..... who cares? Funny, they're throwing money at another farm not far up the road...concrete, gutters, gateways, sprayer areas, roofing stores etc etc and his water doesnt even run to the catchment! But at least my cows could cool their feet down in the river when it was hot!


Yes, this is sour grapes

 

[T Hectares]

Been good here ( arable farming though )
Good people on the ground, support with CS application, soil OM testing and events and help along with our AONB to hopefully form a cluster group

 

[Sid]

its sh1te. They draw a line, we're on the wrong side by a few hundred yards so get no assistance, grants etc for anything. Broken concrete with fym juice about... who cares? Cows drinking out of the river.... who cares? Sorting dirty water from rain water..... who cares? Funny, they're throwing money at another farm not far up the road...concrete, gutters, gateways, sprayer areas, roofing stores etc etc and his water doesnt even run to the catchment! But at least my cows could cool their feet down in the river when it was hot!


Yes, this is sour grapes

We were in a CSF area for 12 months, then all funding was withdrawn.
WTF is that about?!
It's all based on water sampling, so if someone in your catchment is causing pollution you get money, do a good job and you get nowt!

 

[ridger]

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? Makes no sense

 

[Cows 'n grass]

We were in a CSF area for 12 months, then all funding was withdrawn.
WTF is that about?!
It's all based on water sampling, so if someone in your catchment is causing pollution you get money, do a good job and you get nowt!

It's a fine balance, you need to put just enough slurry in the river to remain in a csf area but not so much that you are put in an nvz.

 

[Cows 'n grass]

For those of very low IQ, the above post is a joke. Being in a csf area has been very helpful for me with regards to getting grant money to improve the farm.

 

[Henarar]

We have done a lot of riverside fencing on the scheme and roofed over all our feed and scrape yards which is great cos I don't get wet feeding and scraping out in the mornings now and the feed is dry and no water in the dung,
back then the fencing was set rate and the roofing was 50% so still a fair investment and you can't change the use of the yard you roofed over for 5 years, meaning you can't roof over a feed yard then bed them down in there or use it to store bales or some such

 

[deleted user 837354]

? Makes no sense

The post I quoted has been deleted.

 

[deleted user 837354]

We have done a lot of riverside fencing on the scheme and roofed over all our feed and scrape yards which is great cos I don't get wet feeding and scraping out in the mornings now and the feed is dry and no water in the dung,
back then the fencing was set rate and the roofing was 50% so still a fair investment and you can't change the use of the yard you roofed over for 5 years, meaning you can't roof over a feed yard then bed them down in there or use it to store bales or some such

I presume you have neighbours or similar who fall into the same catchment. Has anyone been obliged to do big expensive capital works by the scheme?

A bit of fending and roofing which benefits your operation in the long run seems a pragmatic and sensible approach that would be well received by many.

 

[Henarar]

I presume you have neighbours or similar who fall into the same catchment. Has anyone been obliged to do big expensive capital works by the scheme?

A bit of fending and roofing which benefits your operation in the long run seems a pragmatic and sensible approach that would be well received by many.

As far as I know nobody has been obliged to do anything

yes better and far cheaper to bung us a few quid to fence off streams to stop mud from the bank, sh1t from the cows and to an extent runoff from the fields getting in to the river in the first place than it is to give the money plus a lot more money to some contractor down on the levels to dig it back out the river and dispose of it.
plus its better for us and better for wildlife that lives by and in the river,
so win win win really