Farming in France

IJerry

New Member
Sorry to say I don't think it will be possible. 800,000 plus interest over 15 yrs max because of age plus machinery and or stock. Banks look at earning capacity of the farm and not lending against value.
You don't give a region you're looking at but around here the Limousin it's livestock based area and the stocking rate is very modest. Sheep at 7 per hectare at 1.3 lambs, a cow a hectare and the possible droughts in summer.
@IJerry
Thank you leBonPaysan for you help.
I have worked on mixed farm all my life Dairy & Cattle and Arable.
What would 800k get you in the north (dairy / arable) ? What profit would it potentially deliver ?
What would 800k get you in the Limousine area ? What profit would it potentially deliver ?
What would 800k get you in the Aquitaine / midi-pyrenees area ? What profit would it potentially deliver ?
Just looking at best-guess estimates ?
Thank you for your help in advance :)

Jerry
 

robs1

Member
One thing about france other than farming and perhaps building!!!! when the uk was in the eu qualifications were supposed to be equal this never really happened in france ,so these days if her in doors has any ideas of coming to do some professional work dont count on that!!!!
I know several who had ski qualifications to teach that the french refused to accept, but why people would ever expect anything different is surprising
 

will l

Member
Mixed Farmer
Thank you leBonPaysan for you help.
I have worked on mixed farm all my life Dairy & Cattle and Arable.
What would 800k get you in the north (dairy / arable) ? What profit would it potentially deliver ?
What would 800k get you in the Limousine area ? What profit would it potentially deliver ?
What would 800k get you in the Aquitaine / midi-pyrenees area ? What profit would it potentially deliver ?
Just looking at best-guess estimates ?
Thank you for your help in advance :)

Jerry
You will only get maximum a 15 year mortgage as they normally have to finish before you are 65, The only way this would work for you to get a viable farm would be to buy the house and buildings autofinance, and negotiate a "pret d vendeur for part of the land" , and get an outside investor to buy the rest and give you a 24 year "bail cessible on the rest.
 

IJerry

New Member
You will only get maximum a 15 year mortgage as they normally have to finish before you are 65, The only way this would work for you to get a viable farm would be to buy the house and buildings autofinance, and negotiate a "pret d vendeur for part of the land" , and get an outside investor to buy the rest and give you a 24 year "bail cessible on the rest.
Thank you
Will I
 

le bon paysan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
You would need a 200 hectare arable farm averaging 8 tonne hectare wheat minimum to finance 800k debt, at 50years old it would likely be a bad move, no bank that i know of would touch that borrowing at that age
Mrs lbp went to the PAC meeting at Magnac today. 👍
I'm glad I'm not a big arable farmer😰
I suggest anyone who has an open meeting arranged by the Chambre to go and see what is coming in the new PAC from 2023 to 2027.
 

will l

Member
Mixed Farmer
Mrs lbp went to the PAC meeting at Magnac today. 👍
I'm glad I'm not a big arable farmer😰
I suggest anyone who has an open meeting arranged by the Chambre to go and see what is coming in the new PAC from 2023 to 2027.
Yes bashing us poor arable farmers struggling to make the most modest of livings off poor shallow stone infested soil, only to give it to those rich deep loam land of beef and money farmers, ;) Thankfully i am only a SMALL arable farmer,I am only 5' 6" tall.
 
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Je sais pas

Member
Livestock Farmer
Hi everybody! Am wondering what is causing the lift in beef and sheep factory prices in Ireland? And is it an overall European trend. And what is causing that?
In ireland...R3 steers and heifers are around 4.65/kg atm.
With sheep hoggets hovering around 6.80/kg.
What are the equivalent prices in France and UK?
Many thanks!
 
R3 cows 4.60€
U3 cows 4.80€
best U3+ 5.00€
All over 5 years 6 are over 10 yrs. I think I have that right, if not will let you know after they are killed tomorrow. Still a bit unsteady with the language!

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Supply and demand and possibly a bit of uncertainty over the new EGlim2 law here. I haven’t found a buyer willing to sign up yet.
 

le bon paysan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
Hi everybody! Am wondering what is causing the lift in beef and sheep factory prices in Ireland? And is it an overall European trend. And what is causing that?
In ireland...R3 steers and heifers are around 4.65/kg atm.
With sheep hoggets hovering around 6.80/kg.
What are the equivalent prices in France and UK?
Many thanks!
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