Farming in France

They are still buying and moving here, can’t be a problem 🤔. In fact the man (Brit) who lives at the other place is talking with the safer right now🤷‍♂️. Well, not literally

As Roger has said, he is here and is subject to the withdrawal agreement terms. All I am saying is, before they turn their lives upside down, move country and invest all they have and a lot more potentially, perhaps a little advice from those who pay our generous subsidies as to what is possible might be prudent. It was uncertain for us for a while and we moved and installed before Brexit day.
 
Slightly off topic but what sort of yields of lucerne per hectare would farmers be getting in limoges/ aquitaine region (non irrigated)? Would be much farm to farm sale of lucerne hay?

Not that I live over there but I have always been told it is too acid to grow sensible Lucerne over in the west. Seems plenty around us here 4 hours east. It is better in drought conditions but with 3 month with absolutely no rain and average temperatures anywhere from high 20’s to mid 30’s even Lucerne doesn’t like it.
 

czechmate

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I have a feeling he may now be out of luck, certainly for the withdrawal agreement terms. Might face being chucked out if he’s not careful. MSA are pushing for our son’s cds now, he only turned 18 last week. Hope for his sake and that of his kids he got it sorted out.

He is an adult. I have my own problems🤷‍♂️
 

le bon paysan

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Slightly off topic but what sort of yields of lucerne per hectare would farmers be getting in limoges/ aquitaine region (non irrigated)? Would be much farm to farm sale of lucerne hay?
I know here it's not the place to grow lucerne,too cold and wet in winter. Move west to the northwest Charente
the ground is like Cotswold brash, fairly high PH and free draining.
 
One thing about france other than farming and perhaps building!!!! when the uk was in the eu qualifications were supposed to be equal this never really happened in france ,so these days if her in doors has any ideas of coming to do some professional work dont count on that!!!!
 

Farmer_Joe

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One thing about france other than farming and perhaps building!!!! when the uk was in the eu qualifications were supposed to be equal this never really happened in france ,so these days if her in doors has any ideas of coming to do some professional work dont count on that!!!!
Think that’s same with kids qualifications if I understand correctly so if they want to return to uk it’s not equivalent
 

le bon paysan

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They grow quite a lot round us , some of it is hardly worth baling , bale a ha .
Mrs went to a Lucerne visit to a goat farm near Mansle Charente, Natural PH of 7 , 3/4 cuts a year of irrigated Lucerne. Was lovely quality, cut at about 25 inch height with 4 inch stubble. Very leafy , fed on polished concrete raised feed passages. Fully tiled milking parlour with classical music played all-day. He makes and sells cheeses.
 
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le bon paysan

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Think that’s same with kids qualifications if I understand correctly so if they want to return to uk it’s not equivalent
No, the Baccalaureate is equivalent of 5 A levels. Returning to the UK for University requires the Cambridge English certificate, even if English kids.
Edit, unless they've changed since Brexit.
 

Farmer_Joe

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No, the Baccalaureate is equivalent of 5 A levels. Returning to the UK for University requires the Cambridge English certificate, even if English kids.
Edit, unless they've changed since Brexit.
You might be right, that was second hand from the wife! I will tell her she’s wrong :p

I will have another look at it, would be useful if that is correct
 

bobk

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Mrs went to a Lucerne visit to a goat farm near Mansle Charente, Natural PH of 7 , 3/4 cuts a year of irrigated Lucerne. Was lovely quality, cut at about 25 inch height with 4 inch stubble. Very leafy , fed on polished concrete raised feed passages. Fully tiled milking parlour with classical music played all-day. He makes and sells cheeses.
They've got a cricket club in Mansle
 
Its not the kids that go back as such because when they've been here since nippers france is home , its the parents who will be going home.They can be a good social life if the kids mix in and you are prepared to do a bit of carting about( thats if they want it, I was never a parent who just dropped them of at sport and collected them at the finish we have had some good times footballing handballing and i even swam with the kids not so long ago when the department was short for a competition!!!) This year I want to be a santa so i can have all the little girls on my Knee !!!!! only joking in this politically correct benny hill free world.
 
My view isn't negative it's reality

I didn't wish to continue mixed farming , just crops , tell me how to make money on 6 ton / ha wheat and I'm in .
One spray glyphosate. Used 24m sprayer. 10 year old direct drill with fertilizer down spout. One autumn herbicide. One spring. Sulphur instead of fungicide. Nitrogen according to moisture available. Crop insurance. Guaranteed profit. My bill for advice to follow. 😉
 

le bon paysan

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Sorry to say I don't think it will be possible. 800,000 plus interest over 15 yrs max because of age plus machinery and or stock. Banks look at earning capacity of the farm and not lending against value.
You don't give a region you're looking at but around here the Limousin it's livestock based area and the stocking rate is very modest. Sheep at 7 per hectare at 1.3 lambs, a cow a hectare and the possible droughts in summer.
@IJerry
 

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