Farming is part of #thesolution - Series

[Chris F]

Than your car produces in how long or how many miles?

Than a stand family diesel doing 12k miles a year at 50mpg.

 

[Chris F]

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[Dave6170]

Are you sure this is accurate? Seems low, i thought it would be more?
My little farm has planted 2km of the 10000k total. I know of another local farm that planted 43km.

 

[Clive]

Are you sure this is accurate? Seems low, i thought it would be more?
My little farm has planted 2km of the 10000k total. I know of another local farm that planted 43km.

10kms is quite a lot of hedge !

Most members of the public assume farmers are still ripping hedge out I suspect

 

[Chris F]

Are you sure this is accurate? Seems low, i thought it would be more?
My little farm has planted 2km of the 10000k total. I know of another local farm that planted 43km.

It was a while ago we pulled them all together - I believe it was @Guy Smith who highlighted this one from an NFU document. We should add the document to the NFU section on here.

 

[Dave6170]

I think its great that so many hedges have been planted, just thought it would of been more.

 

[Muck Spreader]

Noticed this:-

 

[Bob the beef]

Are you sure this is accurate? Seems low, i thought it would be more?
My little farm has planted 2km of the 10000k total. I know of another local farm that planted 43km.

I would agree @Dave6170 . I have planted over 4km in last 20 years

 

[Chris F]

I would agree @Dave6170 . I have planted over 4km in last 20 years

I have found where we sourced that one:

It was one @Guy Smith recommended.

 

[Guy Smith]

That's from a booklet I produced in 2006.

It probably needs updating. I'll see what we've got.

 

[primmiemoo]

There's a skewed report derived from the Climate Change Conference on the BBC Breakfast. Roger Harobin's report and live insert starting with the slogan about eat less red meat that shows he has not been following the sound research on low/negative carbon meat production. He was live on R4 Today, earlier with the same slogan.

Immediate mention of beef, lamb and dairy production without making the strong advice to source meat from low/negative carbon production methods. Naga (of all people , she's usually the level headed one!) flagging up the BBC lifestyle calculator that bases its workings on feedlot beef.

Just a brief mention about cutting carbon footprint of air travel and burning fossil fuels from the studio guest who also trotted out cutting meat consumption.

 

[puppet]

Radio 4 headline news from the conference is to eat less meat and dairy. Eat more plants which involves opening up soil, lots of fuel, chemicals and leaving it bare for 6 months of the year seems madness to me. That is assuming there would be a market for carrots, potatoes or turnips rather than tofu, bean sprouts and avocados which I have always found difficult to grow up here.
Round here with some of the most intensive dairy beef and sheep farms in UK you would struggle to find a ploughed field for miles.
Meanwhile we encourage more travel, open runways and are slowly paving over every garden.

 

[JP1]

There's a skewed report derived from the Climate Change Conference on the BBC Breakfast. Roger Harobin's report and live insert starting with the slogan about eat less red meat that shows he has not been following the sound research on low/negative carbon meat production. He was live on R4 Today, earlier with the same slogan.

Immediate mention of beef, lamb and dairy production without making the strong advice to source meat from low/negative carbon production methods. Naga (of all people , she's usually the level headed one!) flagging up the BBC lifestyle calculator that bases its workings on feedlot beef.

Just a brief mention about cutting carbon footprint of air travel and burning fossil fuels from the studio guest who also trotted out cutting meat consumption.

I turned the radio off. They had some Professor from Cranfield interviewed and Nick Robinson and she parroted back to each other less meat, meat free days , more plant based diet.

They were concentrating on wheat based diets but your average punter would not have picked that up.

News headlines on the hour and lead headline every half an hour

No alternative pro farming view available






No mention of food waste (1/3 of our food goes in the bin?)
No mention of food miles
No mention of grass fed livestock
No mention of sustainability issues associated with soya










Again; where was the industry spokesperson?

 

[Barleycorn]

I was furious at the useless NFU chap on the today programme. No mention of regenerative farming, and he let the twit get away with saying that farmland should be given up for growing trees, more carbon is sequestrated in grazing pastures than forests. Also no mention that 80% of grazing pastures are on ground that cannot sustain cropping. With all this vegan / climate change nonsense going on the NFU should have some clued up representatives.

 

[primmiemoo]

The factor is compounded by the fact that the Geneva Conference has yet to say anything.

The whole theme is based on speculation.

Far more care and attention is paid to sport statistics.

I've sent communication to BBC - in black type rather than green, but it was a close decision - and urge TFFers to do the same, if not done so already.

 

[jondear]

It's all gone mad no counter argument with the facts!
I think we're all foocked with the way this false information is being rammed down our throats day after day.
It's the most impressionable younger generation that will change their lifestyles!
And never go back to a mixed diet!

 

[Muck Spreader]

I turned the radio off. They had some Professor from Cranfield interviewed and Nick Robinson and she parroted back to each other less meat, meat free days , more plant based diet.

They were concentrating on wheat based diets but your average punter would not have picked that up.

News headlines on the hour and lead headline every half an hour

No alternative pro farming view available






No mention of food waste (1/3 of our food goes in the bin?)
No mention of food miles
No mention of grass fed livestock
No mention of sustainability issues associated with soya










Again; where was the industry spokesperson?

I didn't dare turn the radio on for fear of crashing the tractor after watching the twaddle on BBC Breakfast.
You need to add Palm oil to your list.

 

[JP1]

It's all gone mad no counter argument with the facts!
I think we're all foocked with the way this false information is being rammed down are throats day after day.
It's the most impressionable younger generation that will change their lifestyles!
And never go back to a mixed diet!

^^ this

100+ years ago we lost the Country cousin to the urban dweller link (France holds on to "the feeling" of this but I fear it's gone there too)

30+ years ago we lost the ability to cook (I grew up in a London overspill town in Essex and we had Home Economics lessons on the curriculum and , bless them all, a Rural Science Department with a small livestock unit and greenhouse)

10 years ago we started losing the argument for a balanced diet and good provennce to splinter lobbying factions like PETA, vegans, pseudo environmentalists. Every day I, like most of my friends, do more for the environment than they will ever do









And if you hadn't guessed it, it pees me off royally

 

[Chris F]

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[jondear]

All day livestock farming has had the best negative publicity money can buy !Radio 1 headlines all day eat less meat and dairy on advice from UN!