farming knowledge gone.

[glasshouse]

The human brain works in different ways in different individuals. I once bought an expensive piece of electronic apparatus for pennies that was described as 'non working'. It took a while but I soon realised it was made in Japan where to turn ON a switch you click it upwards whereas in the west, ON is down! Realising how to click saved me several hundred pounds! The Japanese don't think as we do...not everyone does. And I definitely do not think the same way as Highland Mule!

In some people, the brain never works at all.

 

[ajd132]

How many youngsters can drive in a straight line? It would be interesting to see the tramlines etc if we lost the use of GPS!

Driving in a straight line is now an obsolete skill.

 

[Highland Mule]

It might be for you but I for one couldn’t do it . Change a wheel no problem even change a tyre no problem. It all goes back to knowledge transfer and I’ve never had that knowledge transferred.

Exactly my point. Some chaps couldn’t do it because they didn’t have a computer, just as I can’t put the spare tyre onto my wife’s car because it doesn’t have one.

It’s easy to criticise (as lots have done here), but none are masters of all things.

What’s more important to run a successful farming business?

 

[Highland Mule]

The human brain works in different ways in different individuals. I once bought an expensive piece of electronic apparatus for pennies that was described as 'non working'. It took a while but I soon realised it was made in Japan where to turn ON a switch you click it upwards whereas in the west, ON is down! Realising how to click saved me several hundred pounds! The Japanese don't think as we do...not everyone does. And I definitely do not think the same way as Highland Mule!

Didn’t you condemn your mobile phone battery as useless and broken because you didn’t know how to switch it on?

Agreed on both counts.

Edit: oh, and it’s not “up for off” across all the West as you state - USA is up for on too.

 

[Vader]

I was listening to R4 farming this morning. We are all obsolete. It is now "regenerative farming". Some scientist has discovered that muck actually helps the soil. Wow!

But but but they say animal farming destroys the climate and enviroment ..

 

[glasshouse]

Driving in a straight line is now an obsolete skill.

What happens when the satellites go off?
OCD is now out of control in farming

 

[ajd132]

What happens when the satellites go off?
OCD is now out of control in farming

Doomsday scenario, highly unlikely.
If it does happen then just re-learn how to drive in a reasonably straight line. It’s hardly rocket science.

 

[Dry Rot]

As soon as any disaster comes, internet knocked out, satellites down , their'll need mechanical practical ideas, know how to rear animals , plant crops, etc etc and age old knowledge and people who can implement it then?

Doesn't the Earth's magnetic field reverse every few hundred years? Any experts on this sort of thing on here?

 

[Still Farming]

Doesn't the Earth's magnetic field reverse every few hundred years? Any experts on this sort of thing on here?

Due soon then

 

[Cowcorn]

How many people who can fit a wheel find themselves struggling to do do other things due to their brain being full up?

I'd like to learn play the piano but I can't, because my ability to change a wheel is denying me thr ability

A lot of people can put an eye in a cats arse but only a few gan get it to wink !!!

 

[Shutesy]

Tech is great but it errodes skills in next generation, for instance ive an older friend who can drive straight in a field can spread lime like gps but without ,,, youngones have never went without gps auto s and couldnt do what he jas taken years to learn practice , but they dont need to …. But they less skilled .

Rubbish, bet most youngsters given the time to learn without GPS could get to driving straight to a good standard. Flipping the argument, using a modern GPS system and/or a digital farm/field mangement system is a whole new skill set and I bet your older friend might struggle to pick that up very quickly.

 

[glasshouse]

Doomsday scenario, highly unlikely.
If it does happen then just re-learn how to drive in a reasonably straight line. It’s hardly rocket science.

A lot of tackle doesnt have markers now
If the sh!t hits the fan in ukraine, the sats will go off

 

[Will 1594]

I'm sure most could learn it, if for instance no GPS was available worldwide for some reason. I'm 32, use GPS for nearly every task now on a tractor but grew up drilling, ploughing etc with no GPS at all and I know which method I would rather have nowadays. Many farmers still scoff at GPS steering saying driving straight is a dying art, using a GPS system to its full benefit is a new skill that has replaced it. To be drilling for example to 1 inch accuracy whether at 8am, 3pm or 11pm perfectly straight or in conditions like this;
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Is just not possible without the help of technology. Without the GPS yesterday in the above photo I would have had no clue where my drill mark was!

aye but you managed because you just have the sense of it and then get out and look when you have followed previous cultivation and about 7 yards out

 

[Hilly]

Rubbish, bet most youngsters given the time to learn without GPS could get to driving straight to a good standard. Flipping the argument, using a modern GPS system and/or a digital farm/field mangement system is a whole new skill set and I bet your older friend might struggle to pick that up very quickly.

Its just an example.

 

[Hilly]

Rubbish, bet most youngsters given the time to learn without GPS could get to driving straight to a good standard. Flipping the argument, using a modern GPS system and/or a digital farm/field mangement system is a whole new skill set and I bet your older friend might struggle to pick that up very quickly.

Do you not understand that technology is their to make life easy , if you have a certain skill that you have and tech comes along and takes over that skill will die with you as no one else learns it as texh dose it for them not just agg everything so tech erodes skill base .

 

[ajd132]

A lot of tackle doesnt have markers now
If the sh!t hits the fan in ukraine, the sats will go off

Put a marker on it then.
do people on this forum think the younger generation are so retarded that we will all starve if the satellites go off because we are incapable of ever learning how to drive in a straight line? Honestly some peoples priorities are ludicrous.

 

[glasshouse]

Put a marker on it then.
do people on this forum think the younger generation are so retarded that we will all starve if the satellites go off because we are incapable of ever learning how to drive in a straight line? Honestly some peoples priorities are ludicrous.

Dont be so stupid
Nobody mentioned starvation if you couldnt drive straight.
I prefer s nice curve myself, and was slways more interested in the quality of the seedbed than Whether it was dead straight.
I would slways sow off the longest side which usually wasnt straight anyway.

 

[Lowland1]

Rubbish, bet most youngsters given the time to learn without GPS could get to driving straight to a good standard. Flipping the argument, using a modern GPS system and/or a digital farm/field mangement system is a whole new skill set and I bet your older friend might struggle to pick that up very quickly.

We’ve got one tractor with GPS the rest without. Sometimes i get on it and forget how to make it drive itself so i have to steer it.

 

[M-J-G]

Put a marker on it then.
do people on this forum think the younger generation are so retarded that we will all starve if the satellites go off because we are incapable of ever learning how to drive in a straight line? Honestly some peoples priorities are ludicrous.

Nobody believes that we'llstarve due to people becoming more reliant on tech, and what does it matter if it's straight anyway, most of that is just vanity.

The auto steer is just an example of how people are using less and less of their brain and body compared with the past.
Most people cannot count in their head these days either, many will say we don't need to because we have a calculator in our pocket, but an estimate is useful for when an extra zero is added by mistake.

 

[Red Fred]

I borrowed a huge new John Deere (8000 something?)to pull my loader tractor out of a hole and 10 minutes after being given the keys and a perfunctory talk in what to do, I was still sitting in the dealer's yard trying to figure out how to make it go. Luckily one of the young lads walked by and rescued me
I tend to know how to do a variety of jobs but not to perfection. I have a mate helping me at the moment since I was briefly out of action and he is a gardener/handyman/ He will spend all day doing a job to perfection and will do a precision job far better than I could, but I don't think he would cope with farm work as it so often it relies on bodges and changes of plan. On a small farm, I think you have to be a Jack of all trades or else you wouldn't get everything done. However in my mates line of work, his mostly elderly customers want a neat job doing and don't mind if he spends all day at it.