- Location
- South Wales UK
Don't think so if you say .
Not many have expensive cameras rolling about in a tractor with them ALL the time?
Farming photography
- Thread starter Christoph1945
- Start date
Not many have expensive cameras rolling about in a tractor with them ALL the time?
Cowabunga
Member
- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
No? Obviously not "ALL the time". Yet they may well have an £800 inferior thin camera in their pocket ready to drop into a can of waste oil at any time, as they do.Don't think so if you say .
Not many have expensive cameras rolling about in a tractor with them ALL the time?
- Location
- Cornwall.
£519.00 after cashback that's some deal (a little more than what was originally talked about) probably the best mirrorless deal going at the moment https://www.wexphotovideo.com/fujif...d475698d69c5435a0a8700d4f8858ee&utm_source=aw
Cowabunga
Member
- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
That is indeed a really great camera for that price.
I see that double-cashback has already started. To do any camera justice and to demonstrate its ability, I would immediately add a fast [f2.8 or larger aperture] portrait lens. A 50mm f2.0 at £380 would do it, or a 60mm f2.4 macro which would kill two birds with one £569 stone.
There are good used examples of the above pair available for up to £200 less than new, so it needn't break the bank.
These lenses will give the potential for great separation of depth in the image and nice 'bokeh'.
- Location
- Cornwall.
I've recently added a Minolta Rokkor 50mm f2.0 and a (awaiting delivery) Minolta Rokkor 28mm f2.8 to my Fuji kit each lens cost £40.00!
Cowabunga
Member
- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
Fair point. There's always the option to use legacy glass from the same or other brands on mirrorless system cameras, using an adapter. However, many will need to be manual lenses. The range of lenses and adapters that allow autofocus and camera operated auto aperture adjustment is smaller and I don't really think going down this road is suitable for the relative novice, do you?
___\0/___
Member
- Location
- SW Scotland
Instead of starting a new thread I thought I would tag onto this one. Started taking photos at my kids sporting events and the camera phone isn't cutting it anymore. Looking for recommendations of something that gives alot of reward to a novice but I will be using it two or three times a week at points so willing to put in a bit of effort. Wasn't really looking to spend more than £500 but not sure how realistic that is after reading this thread.
Christoph1945
Member
- Location
- Widnes West Cheshire
Tom Hustler did some great work with a Kodak Box Brownie; regardless of whichever camera you eventually get, fire up your imaginations and shoot, shoot, shoot.
Cowabunga
Member
- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
Seeing as you are wanting a camera you will indeed need to be realistic. There is a lot of choice new but a good used camera may well be suitable. However, seeing as something like my Panasonic G6 with unknown shutter counts go for £200 and low shutter count immaculate ones for £250, plus you'll need a couple of lenses, £500 is far too low a budget for a new camera. Having said that though, if you press the go button right now, Olympus have a special offer on here
OM SYSTEM Cameras, Lenses, Audio & Binoculars
shop.olympus.eu
I've bought a pair of binoculars for £99 which I expect tomorrow or Tuesday.
Here is a review of the lens
If that £100 extra is too much, the standard same body with the kit 14-42 lens is available for precisely £500 for Argos and other retailers. Great camera as I own a Mk2 version. The Mk3 has a simplified menu system which is more suitable for novices than the Mk2. These are probably the best deals you can get just now on balance.
I should warn you that this class of camera and lens is not optimum for children's sporting events. They will do the job but you might want a camera with better continuous autofocus and a more telephoto lens, but you are looking at more serious money whether used or new. You can add such a lens later to the E-M10 of course and I don't personally have an issue with its focus on fast moving objects as long as settings are suitable. Settings come with the learning experience.
To put this into some kind of perspective, a full frame Canon R5 with 24-105 f4 lens will set you back at least £4500. So performance is relative but believe me you get a whole lot more bang for your buck with the above-mentioned camera.
Last edited:
___\0/___
Member
- Location
- SW Scotland
Went with the olympus in the dealSeeing as you are wanting a camera you will indeed need to be realistic. There is a lot of choice new but a good used camera may well be suitable. However, seeing as something like my Panasonic G6 with unknown shutter counts go for £200 and low shutter count immaculate ones for £250, plus you'll need a couple of lenses, £500 is far too low a budget for a new camera. Having said that though, if you press the go button right now, Olympus have a special offer on here
For the E-M10 MkIIIS with 12-45 f4 Pro [similar properties to the Canon lens listed in last paragraph, this being a 24-90 35mm equivalent] lens for £600. Basically the lens itself retails for £600 and you get a really good camera free. Please note that this is a genuine offer that ends tonight.OM SYSTEM Cameras, Lenses, Audio & Binoculars
I've bought a pair of binoculars for £99 which I expect tomorrow or Tuesday.
Here is a review of the lens
If that £100 extra is too much, the standard same body with the kit 14-42 lens is available for precisely £500 for Argos and other retailers. Great camera as I own a Mk2 version. The Mk3 has a simplified menu system which is more suitable for novices than the Mk2. These are probably the best deals you can get just now on balance.
I should warn you that this class of camera and lens is not optimum for children's sporting events. They will do the job but you might want a camera with better continuous autofocus and a more telephoto lens, but you are looking at more serious money whether used or new. You can add such a lens later to the E-M10 of course and I don't personally have an issue with its focus on fast moving objects as long as settings are suitable. Settings come with the learning experience.
To put this into some kind of perspective, a full frame Canon R5 with 24-105 f4 lens will set you back at least £4500. So performance is relative but believe me you get a whole lot more bang for your buck with the above-mentioned camera.
, appreciate you taking the the time to put together such a detailed reply.
Cowabunga
Member
- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
You're welcome. I hope you enjoy using your E-M10 as much as I continue to do. If you want some tuition on it, go to YouTube and search out Rob Trek and some of his earlier videos which explain the Mk1 and 2 if not the Mk3. The menu on yours is different and better.Went with the olympus in the deal
If you went for the Pro lens, then I suggest its a keeper when you eventually change bodies. For best results set the camera to the diamond setting, which is what they call 0 second anti-shock. The heart symbol is for silent electronic shutter for those church weddings and baptisms etc.
There's a lot to learn but do not be daunted. Take it one step at a time and if there's something you don't understand and is frustrating, leave it for a bit and ask either a forum, a friend, here on a new topic, or anywhere. Everyone starts somewhere and the main thing is to enjoy the learning process, not to be flustered by it. There are no exams and a lot of satisfaction to be had when things drop into place and when you make stunning images. It is you that makes those images with the help of the camera. Oh, and don't feel pressured into shooting raw files and post processing much on a computer. I'm quite happy shooting jpeg compressed files and, if necessary, tweaking some on a computer, usually to brighten the whole picture or to lift shadows. Its all optional.
Don't forget that you will need an SD card to record the images and video. These are now cheap as chips and I suggest that best value is 128GB such as this…. will give you enough space for a few thousand shots and hours of video.
Your battery will not last that long so you might like to carry a spare fully charged battery with you to those important events. I've got one of these and it seems OK and has lasted four years so far.
Last edited:
Cowabunga
Member
- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
If you have a VAT registered business, then this camera's primary function may be to scan documents and record crops and animals for management purposes. In which case you may legitimately claim the VAT back on it and all accessories and offset it against tax. This may be the case even if you are not VAT registered but self employed, although the VAT element then may not be recoverable [if you are not registered]
Don't try it with more than one camera though ;-)
I notice that the Dot.Foto battery has gone up in price £2.50 since I bought mine in early 2018. It remains at literally about a tenth of the price of a genuine Olympus battery though.
Have a look at this while you wait for delivery
Don't try it with more than one camera though ;-)
I notice that the Dot.Foto battery has gone up in price £2.50 since I bought mine in early 2018. It remains at literally about a tenth of the price of a genuine Olympus battery though.
Have a look at this while you wait for delivery
Last edited:
___\0/___
Member
- Location
- SW Scotland
Grand have just ordered the memory card and battery you recommended, thanks again. Will indeed be trying to claim the VAT back. Already watched my first Rob Trek YouTube video, admittedly was the mk2 but a lot of good info to take on board.
Cowabunga
Member
- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
If you have big hands, then a genuine [and very expensive] Olympus hand grip might feature on your birthday or Christmas list at some point, as well as a bag to carry the kit safely. These things are for the future but remember, camera on a shelf doesn't take pictures. Also don't be shy pulling the trigger because unlike film cameras of old, it costs nothing to take pictures or videos. If you don't like them, delete them in the camera or after downloading and backing them up. Do not leave thousands of pictures on the SD card as a permanent storage medium because one day you may lose the card or it might even fail to work. Every few weeks, take the card out and insert it in your computer and copy across [or you can do this using the USB cable supplied. Back up to a cloud service as a minimum. This could be OneDrive, GoogleDrive, Dropbox or iCloud, it doesn't matter. All provide a good amount of storage free of charge. I also back up my whole computer, including photos, to an external backup drive. Both Windows and Apple OS have this feature built in, so no need for any costly extra apps. I have Apple so there's a 'TimeMachine' working in the background doing hourly incremental backups. The clouds upload automatically as well and I don't do a thing once set up initially.
Sorry if this is all old hat and boring. No need to follow any of it except I strongly advise downloading and backing up. Otherwise if something fails you will lose everything. I had the external drive on which I keep all my photos fail about six months ago. Lost them all on that drive. Not an issue though, because I just plugged in a spare external USB drive and backed up from Time Machine. If that had failed then I could re download from the Cloud, which I did when I changed to a new computer a couple of years ago. That took a few days due to the internet speed but worked flawlessly.
Anyhow, don't overload your head with this stuff. Take your time and enjoy.
Cowabunga
Member
- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
My binoculars arrived yesterday. Trying to remember where my father's old binoculars are stored. They have broken but are housed in a nice but battered leather case that is better than the padded bag that came with the new binos. These are really great binoculars for £99 by the way, but not worth the normal asking price due to two things. They are not waterproof, and the front lens caps are a loose fit and not attached to the body. Optical quality is spot-on and so is the handling experience.
___\0/___
Member
- Location
- SW Scotland
Camera arrived today and had a play about with. Really impressed so far but will give it a proper work out over the weekend. Probably the most annoying thing at the moment is the Olympus app which won't let me transfer photos. Some new offers on the Olympus website on the miii and miiis with different lenses if anyone else is keen. Probably going to look for a case next.
Cowabunga
Member
- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
Take your time. There are two apps I believe. OI Track and OI Share. I don't use them but did use the remote control a few times and it worked well. If I was away somewhere and wanted to transfer to my iPad without using the card reader, I would try it out again.
Oh! I should mention, just in case this is what you are trying, that it isn't really meant to transfer wirelessly to a laptop or desk computer. The system, in line with most other brands, is meant to be used with the apps for use with IOS and Android mobile devices including phones and tablets.
___\0/___
Member
- Location
- SW Scotland
No just trying to get it on the phone. Quite often I will have spare time between events/matches and was hoping to upload the photos then. I could use a card reader for phone but it's another bit of kit to carry, its Ol share I am trying to get to work.
Cowabunga
Member
- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
It will work eventually when you find out what's stopping it. It will all drop into place step by step, believe me. One thing at a time and if something frustrates, move on to the next thing and come back to it in a few days with a fresh mind. I treat every new camera as a mind game which I'm determined to win, however long it takes.
___\0/___
Member
- Location
- SW Scotland
Got it fixed my phone kept disconnecting from the camera and reconnecting to the house WiFi. Not sure if it is an app or a phone issue but easily sorted once I knew what was going on.
- Tags
- dairy performance premium